As far as smart meters being correct, I'll have to disagree with this since when one was installed on my rental property which was vacant and the water was turned off at the street, I got a water bill for $1,800.00 and I didn't make a typo in the amount. After fussing with the utility department for 3 months, I finally had to call the mayors office to get it sorted out. They couldn't understand why the visual reading was different than what was being sent to the computer so I suggest you get a sighted person to check your meter reading and compare it to your billed amount. In my case it deffentantly was noticeable but if the difference is slight you might be getting screwed.
Robert----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:52 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional)
Joe, I can only say you've really got just about everything screwed up in this reply of yours. first, yes, you can opt out at any time; that question, and all the othersyou say aren't answered, are indeed answered on the web site provided in theoriginal email. This question was actually answered in the email, since I copied some of the questions from the site into the first email.next, nobody said anything about just having a smart meter would lower yourbill. that wasn't claimed, because they are a standard electric meter inevery way, except that they can be read remotely over the internet. they donot give false readings, and they have not caused anyone's bill to go up unjustly. there has been no misreading by city workers.Yes, it's possible if you go on this plan for you to have a higher bill (if you use all your electricity during the peak daytime hours); you do have toread and understand it before doing something like signing up, or shooting off a reply full of misinformation.No, having residential customers switch their usage patterns because of thisprogram will not change the peak load times; that's because peak load is largely a function of commercial use (that's why holidays are given to you at the cheaper rate, just like night time usage). The city does provide all of these answers on their web site, and time ofday pricing for electricity is something which has been in common use acrossthe country for 20 years I'd guess. this is a way for people who have very limited amounts of money to save a little more; you should not try and stop them from doing so by spouting alot of conspiracy theory, or anti-government rhetoric which isn't backed upwith any facts. It's also a very environmentally friendly thing to do, as it keeps us from having to build new power plants. Chip -----Original Message-----From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Joe Plummer Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:24 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: new electricity pricing plan (optional) Yes, I heard about this from the Morning show on WFLA FM . The problem iswith this is like the smart meters what if it really ended up with a highercost to you and two if you decided you did not like it or it did not fit your needs could you opt out of it. These questions have not yet been answer. Also would if enough people got on this ban wagon wouldn't itchange the peek time? This then would throw you in a higher electric plan.Also the question is if your house or rental is not energy efficient how would this effect your cost with these smart thermostat. So lots of questions and so far no answers from the city and lots more question that have not been listed here that has not been answered yet. Don't forget the smart meter was supposed to lower people electric bill and did exactly the opsit. No one has gave a good reason why this has happen. The best answerthey came up with here is that the meter readers was not reading the metersright. Now you are saying that the city employed meter readers that could not read and write ? I don't think so I think the smart meters is just not working right but guess what you can't do anything about it but pay the bill. So in my opinion is to be careful what you sign up for. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplummer@xxxxxxx -----Original Message-----From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Allison and Chip Orange Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:58 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] new electricity pricing plan (optional) Hi all, below is info on the new optional electricity pricing plan. instead of asingle price, you can switch to a plan which prices it based on the time ofday when you use the power. To go with this, you can purchase thermostats which automatically changetheir temp settings based on the time of day, along with electric hot watertimers which do the same thing. Chip -------The City Commission approved the first optional rate plan at its October 27,2010 meeting. This new offering is known as the Nights & Weekends Pricing Program. As a new Energy Smart Plus program, it offers customers analternative rate option with a lower price on electricity used during nights(7 p.m. - 7 a.m.), weekends and holidays at 7.921 cents / kWh and a higherrate during weekdays (7 a.m. - 7 p.m.) at 22.264 cents / kWh. The program isopen to 2,000 City of Tallahassee Electric customers as a pilot from November 1, 2010 through April 30, 2012. More info at: http://www.talgov.com/you/energy/nw.cfm Frequently Asked Questions and Answers from that site are copied below. Q: What are the rates associated with Nights & Weekends? A: Currently, our electricity is at 12.158 cents / kWh all day, every day.The new plan will be split between Daytime @ 22.264 cents / kWh and Nights &Weekends @ 7.921 cents / kWh. State holidays are also at the Nights & Weekends rate of 7.921 cents / kWh. Q: Can I stop the program at any time? A: Yes, but if you return to the program, we will ask you to stay for a minimum of one year. Q: If I leave the program will I be able to re-enroll? A: Yes, as long as there are available spots in the program; and you'll be required to remain on the plan for at least a full year. Q: When does this program start? A: Customers can start signing up on November 1, 2010. Q: How can I sign up? A: Call 891.4YOU (4968) or fill out a Customer Request Form for more information or to sign up. Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI and please make suggestions for new material. if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org webinterface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith the word "unsubscribe" in the subject. Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI and please make suggestions for new material. if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org webinterface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxwith the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABIand please make suggestions for new material.if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.
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