First of all, as always, when you go into detail about something, it is SO
educational for me. I'm amazed at your insight into the sociology on this side
of the ocean. You could change a handful of words and names below and be just
as accurate about another topic like (say) Affirmative Action or diversity in
Hollywood.
The tanking stuff (incentivized or not) is what gets me the most. Probably
naive on my part, but I always thought shitty teams weren't intentionally
playing to lose for higher draft position. Like when it comes right down to it,
football guys just aren't wired that way. They were just... Shitty.
Oh, and... Possible power struggle between Hunt and Khan and possibly
alienating (and maybe losing) both? Heh. Sounds like Cowher and Donahoe all
over again.
Joe
On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 7:00 AM, David Reid<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote: It’s not just about Flores or Ross, it’s about the last 30 years of
black coaches interviewing for head coaching jobs. Back in 1992 when Noll
retired, the Steelers gave an interview to Joe Greene, not because he was a
candidate with a chance of getting the job, but out of courtesy to him, before
giving the job to Bill Cowher. There are countless similar stories and I think
so many black assistant coaches who have interviewed for head coaching jobs are
now so finely tuned to what is a legitimate opportunity and what is a sham
interview that it’s plain for all the world to see and finally, Brian Flores
has had the guts to call the owners out on it.
I had a conversation with someone last Wednesday who was 100% convinced that
the Giants job was Brian Daboll’s whilst interviews were still happening and
this seemed to be common knowledge which was born out in the Belichick-Flores
text exchange and when the fix is in like that, when the last two winning
offensive co-ordinators in Super Bowls are further away from a head coaching
job than Josh McCown who has never even coached at the college or pro level,
when in Dallas all you hear about is Kellen Moore, whilst Joe Whitt is waiting
in the wings still to become a co-ordinator, then something is seriously wrong.
And black coaches who do get fired never seem to get another opportunity
either, in fact, the firing of Flores in Miami was seen by many as so
egregious, that it led to him getting consideration for jobs that he wouldn’t
get normally, which is rare. This is a process where the qualifications, track
record and experience of black coaches are ignored routinely when compared to
those attributes in white coaches who are hired ahead of them. The Giants
hiring of Joe Judge over Eric Bieniemy being one of many examples. The firing
of David Culley this year, the blackballing of Jim Caldwell despite him having
a winning record in Detroit of all places are others. Fundamentally, black
coaches are not on the same level playing field as white coaches and that has
to change.
As for the tanking stuff, it’s been happening for years, maybe not the
incentivisation aspect of it, but it’s been happening, it’s just that people
are blowing the whistle now.
Notes on the GM search…… there seems to be a split in house, Tomlin wants
Brandon Hunt as the next GM, whilst Colbert wants Omar Khan and Art Rooney
isn’t enamoured with either (according to DK Pittsburgh Sports) - but I’d heard
the job share rumours being floated as well with each man having ultimate
responsibility for their current areas of expertise and no direct replacement
for Colbert being installed. This could get very interesting, especially if
they do start looking seriously at external candidates with no Pittsburgh ties.
If someone comes in ahead of Hunt and Khan, do they leave when Colbert leaves?
The Steelers could be creating a power struggle here….
On 3 Feb 2022, at 19:14, Joe Dies ("oldsrocket455")
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Not arguing with you at all, but *why* do you believe every word of it?
Something about Flores' or Ross' integrity?
Joe
On Tuesday, February 1, 2022, 05:34:10 PM EST, David Reid
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I’ve read it and I believe every word of it.
Flores interviewed with the Texans yesterday and napalms them for their
treatment of David Culley today. He knows his career might be over now, but my
goodness he says what needed to be said.
Steeler fans: be thankful that the last time the Steelers were in need of a
coach, they cast the net as far and wide as possible, were open minded and
curious and recognised that there was something special about the DC of the
Vikings with only one year of co-ordinate experience. They did it right and
hardly anyone has done it right since.
Sent from my iPhone
On 1 Feb 2022, at 21:04, Steve Rhoton <sprhoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
