On Wednesday 31 January 2001 00:06, you wrote: > Ok allow me to be more specific. I was referring to people that are in the > NT, Novell, AS/400, SNA, XNS, Vines worlds. Now we know. I hardly had in mind to speak to the whole of the networking-technologies community, however, I would suggest that you put it to the group and see if they want to state it specifically in this way. > > I would hardly refer to all them as "unix like". Who would? My use of unix-like was merely an attempt to be... correct. Since *Unix* is copyrighted it has been my understanding that it's appropriate, therefore, to use *unix-like* instead. When I used *nix I was trying to be sure to include any variety of unix-like besides Linux. So far, no one, other than yourself, has expressed this desire to make the group overtly inclusive of all networking systems. > > Unless you ask Microsoft, they believe that NT 4 is what UNIX should be. > > *nix networks are not the only networks in the world. True--a well-known fact. > > It's a world of many diverse technologies, and in order to survive, you > have to know a lot about them all. Frankly, for me anyway, I'm not interested in surviving in it. I don't work in it and don't intend to. Perhaps most of what your saying in your reply is speaking about yourself and your interests. That's fine, of course. I guess we'll discover what all of the interests are within the group and reach an intelligent amalgamation of the best and most relevant ones. So far, this group has had two meetings and only two people have been to both. No one who's been there, so far, has expressed a desire to make such a strong emphasis on networking, nor with such a diversity of systems. > > That's the only way to provide TRUE solutions. > > All I was trying to say is, let's not segregate against people that are not > of the *nix world. I can only speak for myself when I say that I don't have a bit of interest in segregating out diversity. For me though, I would certainly be ready to leave and find something more useful to do with my time if a MS admin. type came and wanted to talk about windows 2K networking issues. But that's me and I'd not be offended if everyone else stayed and listened with intensity. I'd just think I'd found the wrong group and I'd probably set out to find or start a group with a stronger focus on Linux as that's *my* chief interest at this time. > > Let's get as many people from all different types of backgrounds, those > that are life long *nix users as well as those, that have only heard the > word, but are interested in learning more about it. > > There isn't one single person that knows absolutely everything about > everything. > > Not in this industry especially. > > Everyone can benefit, from sharing ideas, experiences and talents. > > After it's all said and done, you just may find out how much you really > don't know :) Well, I'm coming from being a windows desktop (still have a dual boot sys.) *user* (and hater) to getting into Linux because I want stability, reliability, etc. It's philosophical for me, as I dislike any tool that's suppose to do a job right, but breaks all of the time. Ergo, Linux. As far as networks go, I am interested and learning as I have a self-interest in developing my own for business and home uses. If you want a statement on the index page of the web-site that is properly inclusive of the right technologies, write it, so it will say it right, and put it to the group. We have yet to develope a mission statement so you might try to influence its character with your strong interests in overall networking. > > God knows I don't. > > But I learn more and more every single day. > > And the greater the diversity, the greater knowledge you obtain. A universal truth, however, everyone finds that they *must* take choices about what to focus on since we don't have time for learning it all. Cheers, Richard Storey -------------------------------------->%sniped