[SI-LIST] Re: reference plane cutout under DC blocking capacitor pads

  • From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:31:47 -0800

Yes, the projection of the voided ground region should be treated as a 
keep-out region on signal layers.

It is not a matter of either / or.  Stitching vias create reflection 
boundaries.  The energy was and remains mostly in the dielectric.

Steve.
On 11/18/2013 6:26 PM, Balaji G wrote:
> Hi all,
>     I believe reference plane cutouts under the DC blocking capacitor pads
> for high speed signals help us minimizing the extra capacitance created
> between pads and planes and reduces the impedance discontinuity.
>
>      This means that the pad should refer the farther ground/power as
> reference (20 mils away from signal layer). Is that means we need to
> engineer the layers under the cutouts? Say we should move the traces away
> which are going under the cutout region in the signal layer directly under
> high speed reference plane.
>
>     Also, in certain application notes, I got to look at a recommendation of
> adding ground stitching vias near the pads to provide current return path.
> If the signals are high speed (12Gbps), I believe the returns would prefer
> to take a loop around the cutout region in the immediate reference plane
> rather taking a loop through the ground stitching vias. Can you provide
> your thoughts on this?
>
>
> Regards,
> Balaji
>
>
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