Then what's the use of it if it can't take the placement into consideration and calculate loop inductance of the leads/pads of the caps in the PCB which I think will easily dominate over the ESL of the cap ? -----Original Message----- From: Doug Brooks [mailto:doug@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:13 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: UltraCAD ESR and Bypass Capacitor Caculator While I've enjoyed the entire discussion under this heading, I feel like I have to say once again that the UltraCAD calculator says NOTHING at all about placement. THAT discussion picked up under this heading some how. Our calculator is just one (repeat "one") way to calculate a a complex impedance function. Doug At 03:56 PM 8/12/2003 +1000, you wrote: > it may be a good idea to put Doug Brooks' new book, "Signal Integrity Issues and Printed Circuit Board Design" has just been released by Prentice Hall. See details and ordering info at www.ultracad.com ____________________________________________________________________________ __ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu