Some of us real old timers even remember the early days of ECL. SI has been around for a long time and for awhile it was a lost art. Really good to see the expertise be passe on with the increased need with todays lighting bolt edge rates and frequencies. At 01:51 PM 6/18/01 -0700, Dr. John L. Prince wrote: >The temptation is just too great!! The endeavor we call SI now has been >around possibly since the 50's, at major computer companies (or maybe just >at one major computer company). I first developed and taught a >university-level class (at Clemson University) which included "SI" elements >in 1977--it was in fact a class in high speed digital electronics, so it >included the circuit characteristics as well it must in this area. Bill >Blood, thanks for help from your book! In 1983 the situation was becoming >more serious, and here at Arizona we started a class in packaging which >included "SI" elements. In 1984 we received major funding from SRC (which >we still have, nearly 20 years later) to develop the science and algorithms >behind what you now call "SI". Around 200 papers dating back to 1986, and >numerous graduate students(dating back to 1986), have come out of this >effort. Since 1990 or so there are other university programs (but not >very many) which also address this area. > >So, there is little new under the sun today, just new names for things. >And, just more fun to be had in a neat field. John Prince > >At 06:45 PM 06/15/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > > >Hi Esther, > > > >I am not sure if you are aware but Signal Integrity did show up until > 94-95. > >The only person to satisfy your requirements is Howard Johnson aka author of > >first book on SI "Book of Black Magic". What I am trying to say is that > your > >post will make some people laugh. Don't worry you are not the first one > with > >similar post. What you should have wrought is "8 years of high speed PCB >board > >design with emphasis on signal integrity". That would be more belivable. > >The SI wasn't issue at lower speeds. It has shown up in last few years as a > >mayor issue. I have been working on SI and I can tell you there aren't that > >many people who really know SI. You should look for a person who has >designed > >whole lot of backplanes and who has done SI simulations on their own (not > >someone who got other people to do it for them). > > > >I hope this helps you. And I hope you find right person for the job. > > > > > >Regards, > >Bo > > > >p.s. If you need help being more specific in your search feel free to > contact > >me. > >p.p.s. I am not looking for a job and I probably wouldn't fit your > >qualifications. I am just trying to help. > > > >--- esther williams <estherw2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> Hello - The following is a SI position at an Optical Data Networking start > >> up. > >> > >> Please contact: Esther at ewilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx for more information. > >> > >> Title: Senior Signal Integrity Engineer > >> > >> Location: Mountain View, CA > >> > >> Job Description: > >> > >> - Specify, simulate, design and analyze high speed interfaces for data > >> networking systems. > >> > >> - Verification of actual hardware and confirm the simulations results to > >> guarantee integrity of all the high speed interfaces. > >> > >> - Generate guide lines for board designers and layout designers for the >high > >> speed routing. > >> > >> - Setup process to sign off layouts for PCB fabs. > >> > >> Position Requirements: > >> > >> - Experience with high speed IOs like LVDS, HSTL, SSTL, LVTTL, CML, PECL. > >> > >> - Familiar with high speed bus interfaces. > >> > >> - Knowledgeable with ASIC design flow and IO selection process. > >> > >> - Extensive use of SPICE and IBIS to simulate signal integrity for the > high > >> speed board. > >> > >> - Experience with QUAD like tools to sign off PCB layout designs. > >> > >> - Multi-gigabit board design and EMI/EMC containment techniques. > >> > >> - Defined impedance controlled PCB stack-ups and familiar with fabrication > >> process and backplane designs. > >> > >> - MSEE or PhD. > >> > >> - 8 + year's experience in signal integrity. > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> Do You Yahoo!? > >> Yahoo! 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