[SI-LIST] Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!

  • From: "Yibing Tang" <ytang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:16:09 -0700

That's too hot. Anyway, I learn the "history" of SI.
From my understanding, SI just means digital guys are now getting familiar
with some concepts of microwave technology. Yibing


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[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Dr. John L. Prince
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:51 PM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SI Position Open READ THIS!!!!



The temptation is just too great!!  The endeavor we call SI now has been
around possibly since the 50's, at major computer companies (or maybe just
at one major computer company).  I first developed and taught a
university-level class (at Clemson University) which included "SI" elements
in 1977--it was in fact a class in high speed digital electronics, so it
included the circuit characteristics as well it must in this area.  Bill
Blood, thanks for help from your book!  In 1983 the situation was becoming
more serious, and here at Arizona we started a class in packaging which
included "SI" elements.  In 1984 we received major funding from SRC (which
we still have, nearly 20 years later) to develop the science and algorithms
behind what you now call "SI".  Around 200 papers dating back to 1986, and
numerous graduate students(dating back to 1986), have come out of this
effort.  Since 1990 or so  there are other university programs (but not
very many) which also address this area.

So, there is little new under the sun today, just new names for things.
And, just more fun to be had in a neat field.  John Prince

At 06:45 PM 06/15/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Hi Esther,
>
>I am not sure if you are aware but Signal Integrity did show up until
94-95.
>The only person to satisfy your requirements is Howard Johnson aka author
of
>first book on SI "Book of Black Magic".  What I am trying to say is that
your
>post will make some people laugh.  Don't worry you are not the first one
with
>similar post.  What you should have wrought is "8 years of high speed PCB
board
>design with emphasis on signal integrity".  That would be more belivable.
>The SI wasn't issue at lower speeds.  It has shown up in last few years as
a
>mayor issue.  I have been working on SI and I can tell you there aren't
that
>many people who really know SI.  You should look for a person who has
designed
>whole lot of backplanes and who has done SI simulations on their own (not
>someone who got other people to do it for them).
>
>I hope this helps you.  And I hope you find right person for the job.
>
>
>Regards,
>Bo
>
>p.s. If you need help being more specific in your search feel free to
contact
>me.
>p.p.s.  I am not looking for a job and I probably wouldn't fit your
>qualifications.  I am just trying to help.
>
>--- esther williams <estherw2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hello - The following is a SI position at an Optical Data Networking
start
>> up.
>>
>> Please contact: Esther at ewilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxx for more information.
>>
>> Title: Senior Signal Integrity Engineer
>>
>> Location: Mountain View, CA
>>
>> Job Description:
>>
>> - Specify, simulate, design and analyze high speed interfaces for data
>> networking systems.
>>
>> - Verification of actual hardware and confirm the simulations results to
>> guarantee integrity of all the high speed interfaces.
>>
>> - Generate guide lines for board designers and layout designers for the
high
>> speed routing.
>>
>> - Setup process to sign off layouts for PCB fabs.
>>
>> Position Requirements:
>>
>> - Experience with high speed IOs like LVDS, HSTL, SSTL, LVTTL, CML, PECL.
>>
>> - Familiar with high speed bus interfaces.
>>
>> - Knowledgeable with ASIC design flow and IO selection process.
>>
>> - Extensive use of SPICE and IBIS to simulate signal integrity for the
high
>> speed board.
>>
>> - Experience with QUAD like tools to sign off PCB layout designs.
>>
>> - Multi-gigabit board design and EMI/EMC containment techniques.
>>
>> - Defined impedance controlled PCB stack-ups and familiar with
fabrication
>> process and backplane designs.
>>
>> - MSEE or PhD.
>>
>> - 8 + years experience in signal integrity.
>>
>>
>>
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