[SI-LIST] Re: Ethernet emissions.

  • From: Bryan Ackerly <bryan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 12:15:53 +1000

Lee, I try to never cut up ground planes. This is the one "golden rule" i took 
away from one your own training courses I attended many years ago....

Regards,
Bryan Ackerly


On 07/04/2013, at 4:19 AM, "Lee " <leeritchey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Todd,
> 
> Thanks for reiterating the need to avoid cutting up ground planes.  I am 
> puzzled as to why anyone would recommend such a tactic. But, then, there are 
> a host of such "off the cuff" things that get circulated year after year 
> without any proof they are valid.  Even more puzzling is why engineers 
> accept such claims without supporting evidence that they are valid.
> 
> They keep me very busy most of the time fixing problems that they cause!
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Todd Hubing
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 10:54 AM
> To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Ethernet emissions.
> 
> Bryan,
> 
> 
> Please don't cut up your ground. I wouldn't want anyone on this list to get 
> the idea that isolating grounds is going to solve a radiated emissions 
> problem above 100 MHz. From the symptoms and the measurements you describe, 
> it appears that you are driving the cable relative to your circuit board 
> ground with a CM voltage produced directly by the PHY and insufficiently 
> attenuated by the connector magnetics. If you've maintained balance in your 
> layout between the PHY and the connector, you may need to consider using a 
> different connector with better CM rejection.
> 
> 
> 
> At these frequencies, nothing you do with your ground is going to improve 
> upon the solid plane that you currently have. Trying to establish separate 
> grounds that are at different potentials is likely to make things worse.
> 
> 
> 
> Todd
> 
> -----
> 
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