I am sorry, that is a point to point data/strobe bus on the motherboard without socket at 333MHz, right ? If you turn on ODT and match length, how hard can it be ? How hard can it be for a uni-directional control line only 4 inches long, how hard can it be ? -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ivor Bowden Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:22 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] DDR2 design Hi SI Experts, I am reviewing a layout for an embedded DDR2 design using 4 Micron DDR2=20 chips with an Altera Cyclone controller. The memory is set up to be 64=20 bits wide, 16 bits per chip. The target rate is 167MHz. The design is not simulated. Termination is as follows: ODT may be supported, still investigating. There is no series term. There is 0.9V stub term for control lines. There is a differential 100 ohm term for each clock pair (4 total). Routing is as follows: Control lines are daisy chained and length matched between the first=20 DRAM and controller (about 1"), each DRAM (about .75") and the last DRAM and terminators (about .25"); total net length is about 3.5". Data lines are length matched at about 3" (controller to DRAM). Clock lines are length matched at about 4" (controller to DRAM). Trace impedance is targeted at 100 ohms for clock and control lines, and 75 ohms for data lines. Is this design likely to work? If not, what changes should be considered? I very much appreciate all comments. Thank you! Ivor Bowden Engineer Curtiss-Wright Controls ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu