[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: working dogs

  • From: Denise Fox <Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx" <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:35:58 -0400

Ruth

I don't know you. the hostility in your response and the dig in the end was 
noticed. Now you want to bash our breed if they don't do bite work, Sch herding 
ect. If we decide not go down that road. Are you saying you only have  true 
Shepherds? People like that are trying to convince you that sport only is what 
you should do or we don't have much of a Shepherd. Why is that every GSD has to 
do every sport out there to be worthy? The question is Conformation dogs can do 
both. Can yours?

I love all aspects of our working and conformation. It doesn't mean I have to 
do it.

Peace everyone all conformation and working dogs not sure why they are 
separate, from the day they are born all GSD are all equal. Why does everyone 
want to fight about which sport is better? The only thing that really matters 
is herding that's what they are per AKC. The saying is German Shepherds can do 
it all ! I believe that from a pet to the best of the best 
Our breed has so much to offer. Why this war? Lets be proud of our breed and 
how versatile they are. German Shepherd are one breed not a dozen.

 

Denise Fox
Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx
GCH Foxhaven-MyJoy Good Girl Gone Bad V Windfall - Rihanna   
Foxhaven Devil in Desquise v Franken Major pointed -Saber 

On Sep 14, 2013, at 4:51 PM, <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The amount of hostility present right now in all areas of Sports is 
unbelievable. Dogs are a sport. Having worked with Bob Penny on Temperament 
Testing and been lucky enough to start my training with THe Nassau Dog Training 
Club all the way back in 1964 which had AKC Sanction and only licensed judges 
training I got taught the right way. Its like starting the day with a good 
breakfast. Lots of people have not been that lucky.I think its getting like 
ancient Rome where everyone was turning thumbs down in the arena.They cheer 
when someone gets killed. If you are interested in Police work or Military 
Training join the Army or the Police Force. We do not need a nation of 
Zimmermans. Self appointed police.
---- Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> Now I am really confused - how do soccer fans relate to a test of control and 
> nerves, which is really what the SchH/IPO test is. If it were just aggression 
> there would be no failure for failing to heel, failing to search all blinds, 
> failure to OUT. The dogs know where the helper is. It is their training, good 
> nerves and self-control that makes them not just go and grab the sleeve. It 
> is the same trainability, strong nerves and self control that keeps the flock 
> sheep respecting the dog in HGH. It is the same trainability, self-control 
> and strong nerves that lets them understand the difference between a child or 
> a lamb and and adult causing trouble. It should and must be part of what we 
> breed for. 
> Those qualities can be tested for in many ways and may be present in 
> different degrees, but without them you do not have much of a GSD.
> 
> You also need to have a strong, athletic body - and I sure want it to be nice 
> to look at.
> 
> Ruth
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx" <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:05 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] working dogs
> 
> 
> now lets see. having done tracking herding agility rally and regular 
> obedience I think I have worked my dogs. in fact i am stewarding obedience at 
> the national for the second time. I have put 8 AKC titles on my dogs Four in 
> Breed and Four in Obedience. I think thats pretty well balanced. There is so 
> much aggression in sport right now that they are putting plain clothes police 
> into the stands to prevent dangerous attacks by one set of fans against 
> another. In Europe its even worse particularly at soccer games. In the last 
> incident 20 people were killed.
> --
> norma hansburg
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