[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: working dogs
- From: Joan Fox <campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx" <Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx>, "nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx" <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 05:54:03 -0700 (PDT)
I know Ruth and I know Norma and they are true supporters of the breed. I think
some need to read more carefully.
Joan
Joan F. Fox
17500 Haskins Rd.
Chagrin Falls, Ohio 44023
tel: 440-759-4119
http://www.campaignersgsds.com
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> From: Denise Fox <Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx>
>To: "nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx" <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: "rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx" <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>; DaList
><showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 10:35 PM
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: working dogs
>
>
>Ruth
>
>I don't know you. the hostility in your response and the dig in the end was
>noticed. Now you want to bash our breed if they don't do bite work, Sch
>herding ect. If we decide not go down that road. Are you saying you only have
>true Shepherds? People like that are trying to convince you that sport only is
>what you should do or we don't have much of a Shepherd. Why is that every GSD
>has to do every sport out there to be worthy? The question is Conformation
>dogs can do both. Can yours?
>
>I love all aspects of our working and conformation. It doesn't mean I have to
>do it.
>
>Peace everyone all conformation and working dogs not sure why they are
>separate, from the day they are born all GSD are all equal. Why does everyone
>want to fight about which sport is better? The only thing that really matters
>is herding that's what they are per AKC. The saying is German Shepherds can do
>it all ! I believe that from a pet to the best of the best
>Our breed has so much to offer. Why this war? Lets be proud of our breed and
>how versatile they are. German Shepherd are one breed not a dozen.
>
>
>
>Denise Fox
>Foxhavengsd@xxxxxxx
>GCH Foxhaven-MyJoy Good Girl Gone Bad V Windfall - Rihanna
>Foxhaven Devil in Desquise v Franken Major pointed -Saber
>
>On Sep 14, 2013, at 4:51 PM, <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>The amount of hostility present right now in all areas of Sports is
>unbelievable. Dogs are a sport. Having worked with Bob Penny on Temperament
>Testing and been lucky enough to start my training with THe Nassau Dog
>Training Club all the way back in 1964 which had AKC Sanction and only
>licensed judges training I got taught the right way. Its like starting the day
>with a good breakfast. Lots of people have not been that lucky.I think its
>getting like ancient Rome where everyone was turning thumbs down in the
>arena.They cheer when someone gets killed. If you are interested in Police
>work or Military Training join the Army or the Police Force. We do not need a
>nation of Zimmermans. Self appointed police.
>---- Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Now I am really confused - how do soccer fans relate to a test of control
>> and nerves, which is really what the SchH/IPO test is. If it were just
>> aggression there would be no failure for failing to heel, failing to search
>> all blinds, failure to OUT. The dogs know where the helper is. It is their
>> training, good nerves and self-control that makes them not just go and grab
>> the sleeve. It is the same trainability, strong nerves and self control that
>> keeps the flock sheep respecting the dog in HGH. It is the same
>> trainability, self-control and strong nerves that lets them understand the
>> difference between a child or a lamb and and adult causing trouble. It
>> should and must be part of what we breed for.
>> Those qualities can be tested for in many ways and may be present in
>> different degrees, but without them you do not have much of a GSD.
>>
>> You also need to have a strong, athletic body - and I sure want it to be
>> nice to look at.
>>
>> Ruth
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx" <nhansburgh@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:05 PM
>> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] working dogs
>>
>>
>> now lets see. having done tracking herding agility rally and regular
>> obedience I think I have worked my dogs. in fact i am stewarding obedience
>> at the national for the second time. I have put 8 AKC titles on my dogs Four
>> in Breed and Four in Obedience. I think thats pretty well balanced. There is
>> so much aggression in sport right now that they are putting plain clothes
>> police into the stands to prevent dangerous attacks by one set of fans
>> against another. In Europe its even worse particularly at soccer games. In
>> the last incident 20 people were killed.
>> --
>> norma hansburg
>> www.normahansburg.com
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