$$$$$, always about the $$$. Puppy sales and stud service. Or, they (separation movement) would have ditched AKC back in 1996 when AWSA was formed. Barb Hively - PA DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd -----Original Message----- From: dmarc-noreply <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Jan 27, 2015 10:04 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] whites Wouldn't the first step for the people who want to separate the whites to pull their dogs from AKC German Shepherd registry and keep their own registry books? Then AKC needs no letter as they would be applying as their own breed. Lissa Msg: #9 in digest From: "David Fritsche" <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: GQ, not Gentalmens Quarterly Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:19:20 -0800 I don’t think this is a problem. If the White dog becomes another breed and is accepted by AKC, then a pure bred dog by AKC standards is one that is bred to the same breed. If they breed to GSD stock, then it is no longer pure bred and could not be registered, either as the white dog or as a gsd. Or am I wrong again????? Dave