In a message dated 2/27/2005 11:14:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, TISHW@xxxxxxx writes: If this is so Kris, then the judges are not performing the loose lead procedure as outlined. The only time the GSDCA requires judges to use this procedure is at a futurity or the national and has no control over what judges do when they are judging at other specialty shows. ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tish we talked about this not to long ago and I was informed the PC asked AKC to have judges do this test and new judges on the list even said the akc reps were checking them on it Sally The House of Nasdaq ROM Ch's Seiko, Adam & Ex http://danann.netfirms.com http://www.freewebs.com/embroiderybysally ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================