Okay, well I AM a signer of the breeder's code so I guess I am speaking from within?-?and I can see why some would not sign it???? If my circumstances were when I signed it what they are today (stud dog etc), I would think twice about signing it?because I do not necessarily agree with some of the wording and stipulations around repeat breedings??? Yes there are ways around that stance in the code, but that doesn't make it a good part of the code??? I believe the intent of the code is absolutely wonderful and kudos to Jamie and whoever else has worked on it???? However, those with concerns about signing it are not breeders that have issues within their kennel - TRUST ME???? Several?are very reputable breeders who run a "tight ship" and do not feel signing a piece of paper with such vague and unenforcable restrictions makes them better breeders??? But that is another?debate I guess? The debate now is whether not signing the breeder's code should be?a basis for disallowing member's in good standing from the same rights as other members? i.e. Web Site Advertising?? The idea of everyone signing it then we'll work out the kinks would be a good idea, but when everyone signs it then suddenly it will get dropped because the strong-arming worked?????? I believe that giving some member's more or better rights over a piece of paper is not the way to encourage them to sign it?? JMO Jeff Pyle -----Original Message----- From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx To: dan-ann@xxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 15 May 2009 1:27 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: was ADVERTISING PC WEBSITE, question, Breeder's Code Yup. I have the same memory. What brought it back to the fore was that apparently you need to be a signer to advertise on the web site. I don't have a problem with that. I don't have a problem w/ signing it now and working to put teeth into it. I don't have a problem w/ signing a tougher one and having a review committee for infractions. I guess I do have a little problem w/ those that HAVE a problem <VBG> not being willing to do any of the above and work from within to make changes. It's not going to ruin my day though, lol. Just came back from the garden center w/ a whole lot of fresh herbs to plant. Ever smell lemon thyme??? I'm hungry for a roast chicken now! Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 5/15/2009 1:06:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dan-ann@xxxxxxxx writes: Jamie wanted to tighten up the loop wholes and put some strength in it and at the time it kept getting rejected. As I remember Jamie worked very hard on this for a long time and took a lot of suggestions from the membership only to have it rejected by the board. So unless the board is willing to back a change it is going no where Sally **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823239x1201398650/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=May Excfooter51509NO62) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTI ES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================