Dear Kathy - I never thought my head was in the sand, but according to you, it is !!!! I AM NOT AWARE OF THE LINES THAT CAUSE BLOAT, ETC. Really. I'm being perfectly honest. Whenever I DO hear someone say "Oh, that line carries for ~~~~~~~ (fill in), I ask them "were really scientific studies done on these dogs and progeny, and what are the statistics/results ????? Iza Kabuska - head in the sand http://www.Karizmashepherds.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: <cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx>; <gsdramey@xxxxxxx>; <lhavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:47 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: now bloat... > Cindy, it's not for me to "out" certain lines. I'm sure if you have > questions and call Barb Williams, she'll be happy to answer specifics. > > What I WON'T do is fall into the food/phases of the moon/too much/too > little water/the wind was blowing/the atmosphere was changing cr*p. > > Can there be triggers???? Absolutely. But like I said anybody in the > breed for longer than 5 minutes who can read a pedigree, who pays > attention, > is going to see the mother/sister/son///yada yada yada in pedigrees. > > And yes, mutts bloat too. And you can have complication w/ older > dogs....for the minute let's confine our discussion for dogs under 5 who > bloat/torsion or have TG. Can anybody honestly deny you see it in some > families more > than others??? And if so, enjoy your head in the sand.... > > Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC > Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions > visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) > > > In a message dated 9/14/2009 12:50:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > cinosamgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes: > > ..and what lines are those Kathy? I only ask because if it's common > knowledge to many that bloat runs in certain lines than is it really a > big deal > to post it? > > Cindy > > > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org > NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ > ============================================================================ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.96/2369 - Release Date: 09/14/09 05:51:00 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================