I totally agree with FB on this one. As an interesting side note.... I read a report that shows that dog fighting has increased exponentially since HSUS and PETA began their campaign against it in the 90s.... I need to find that report. Ginger Cleary,Rome, GA ww.rihadin.com <http://www.rihadin.com> The essence of Government is power; and power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse. ? James Madison Member GSDCA Member Sawnee Mtn Kennel Club GA Director Responsible Dog Owners of the Eastern States. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Edwin Hill Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 9:57 AM To: pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx; freelist Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: great article from the Kansas City Star Once again Peggy and I disagree ( but I still wish she was on our board)...I am responding to the article here because a few of you may have read it as I did. First black athletes don't need a wake up call to reject the so-called hip-hop/prison culture (what ever that is) The writer of the article who is African American in the beginning of the article appeared to lump all African American athletes together until the end of the article. I wonder who lives in his neighborhood. Then he said Vick got involved with breeding vicious pit bulls because of rap-music culture made it the cool thing to do???. That statement is both outrageous and irresponsible...that's like blaming the serious problem of sexual assaults on "Playboy" magazine ( years ago many believed that). Dog fighting was here long before rap-music and if the writer checks his history African Americans were not involved at the beginning! The writer uses this incident to link is dislike of the hip-hop culture and rap music..hell I don't like rap music either but I'm not blaming it for the ills of our society, Whitlock ( the writer) should know better. If Vick is guilty ( and I think he is) he's not guilty because of the hip-hop culture or rap music. If Vick is guilty he's guilty because his judgment is poor and he has no empathy or compassion for animals in general and dogs in specific. Vick's actions don't speak for hip hoppers, rappers, or black athletes...his actions speak for himself...just like yours speak for you and mine speak for me...Edwin Bernard Hill No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.9/907 - Release Date: 7/18/2007 3:30 PM ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================