I show my dogs in both rings. I have at home two animals that won their classes at the GSDCA national specialty AND have all-breed Group I's. Now - these are GSDCA national class wins and all-breed Group wins handled by Ariel - NOT Jimmy or Kent or Leslie or Lenny. So - we didn't win because of handler political connections - we won because these are darn nice dogs. There are politics in both rings and good and bad judges in both rings. But - you still can win with nice dogs both rings. I see good dogs in both rings - and I find that I can sort them out in a big or small ring. The truly correct GSD can handle a big or small ring and look good doing it. IMO - the politics in the all-breed ring - at least at the breed level - are not as bad as the politics and the shenanigans I see going on in our specialty rings. Laurie Pruett Windy Acres ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================