The point is that the very traits that were the reason for the breed's origin as a breed came from the tending dogs - the b,,iddability, the nerves, the protectiveness, the trot. Those traits are all part of the whole. I believe the ideal is the dog who is not extreme in any way, shape or form. Others call that "mediocre". Again - it depends on where your interests lie and how you interpret the standard. An if you want to be really honest - a good trainer can get high level titles on a poor quality dog just as an excellent handler can finish a dog others might not. It is why I go back to my original point - showing is a sport and not a true evaluation of breed-worthiness. A big part of that is that most of us would not picture the same dog as being "ideal". Ruth ________________________________ From: Jackie Short <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> To: rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx Cc: DaList <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 2:25:19 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: "Working Class". Dogs and people. Ruth, I was not trying to say the BC had the market cornered on ALL herding, but for those that do herd (for their livelihood), I've noted that more have drivers than tending dogs. And even overall, the point I was trying to make was that the GSD is not supposed to be for any ONE thing. -- Jackie & Jonathan Nguyen Marcato German Shepherds<http://www.marcatogermanshepherds.com> S Konzert vom Drachenberg, RN, CD, CGC "Strauss" Devine's Gunpowder N Lead "Mirada" ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================