[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Why weighted ballot should not be used/

  • From: DestinoGS1@xxxxxxx
  • To: campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx, MASSTANA@xxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:43:30 EST

I'm not so sure that WDA members voted to have her judge.  I believe  you 
must look at the other performance venues that she participates in.  
 
Mary
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/12/2008 8:47:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx writes:
I  do not see what difference it makes what method we use, as under both 
systems,  the WDA members can gather enough votes to get whom they want in to 
judge our  National.
They have done it to us twice now and as members of the GSDCA it  is their 
right.

Joan

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, MASSTANA@xxxxxxx  <MASSTANA@xxxxxxx> wrote:
From: MASSTANA@xxxxxxx  <MASSTANA@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Why weighted ballot  should not be used/
To: LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx,  showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 12:41  AM

I am curious.  Based on your example only 600 people voted for  judge A, 627 
voted for judge B and 610 voted for judge C.  What is  your point?  If more 
people vote for a particular judge then they  generally win.  Obviously I 
have 
missed something.  
The  single vote method works fine and gives us judges that we all seem to  
want.  Why some folks vote for some judges whom they have no  knowledge of I
will 
not ever figure out.  Personally, I would not  have known that Helen would do 
the breed survey approach in  specials.  I had seen her judge several times 
over

the years and  thought she did a good jobs at these shows.  Even received 
several  nice wins.  So I voted for her, not first but she was one of the top 
 3.

Based on what evidently transpired in Texas, she will not get my  vote in the 
future. 

Procedure in the ring is paramount.  I  liked the old way some judges( I 
think 
it was Ed Barritt who started it)  used to do.  After each individual exam 
the 
good group in one corner  and the not as good group in the other corner.  
Then 
move the not so  good group several more times to be sure that you don't
miss  
anyone.  Then excuse.  Then do it again.  But since it is  an AKC show and 
the 
AKC gives the judge relatively wide latitude and  expects the judge to "run
the 
show the way they see fit" I guess we  probably can't dictate
procedure.  Can 
we?  
John  


In a message dated 11/11/2008 7:36:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx writes:

> Below is an example of why the  weighted ballot should not be  used>
> 
> Weighted ballot:  1=3 points, 2=2 points, 3=1  point.
> 
> Judge  A    Judge  B               

>         dge  C
> 200 x  3=   600               194  x  3=  582           
>  195  x  3= 585
> 200 x 2=  400         210  x 2=  420      

> 215  x 2= 430
> 200 x 1=    20000         223 x  1=   223  25                   200  
> x1 015
> Judge A was the choice of the membership since he/she  got more number  1  
> votes but you will see that Judge B  with less number one votes than 
Judges 
> A  &
> C  would get intersex.   Please note that even  though Judge A  got  more 
> number 
> one votes he/she would end up doing  bitches  as a third place  finish.
>  




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