In a message dated 11/11/2008 11:41:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, MASSTANA writes: The single vote method works fine and gives us judges that we all seem to want. Why some folks vote for some judges whom they have no knowledge of I will not ever figure out. Personally, I would not have known that Helen would do the breed survey approach in specials. I had seen her judge several times over the years and thought she did a good jobs at these shows. Even received several nice wins. So I voted for her, not first but she was one of the top 3. Based on what evidently transpired in Texas, she will not get my vote in the future. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ BTW this discussion for me is not about Helen but you brought her in here so I guess you think it is about Helen. I have no idea how many votes Helen received or if she had more number one votes or not. The board would know this information but I would have no knowledge of the totals. It is a general discussion of the possibility of changing how the judges are elected. This comes up just about every year around Nationals time. Lee Brown **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================