I was only talking about the disappearance of correct shoulders and that one of the possible reasons being lack of health. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: Lindenhill German Shepherds To: Barbara Allen Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Where have all the good shoulders gone Interesting point Barbara, so what say you to the connection with the upswing in messenteric torsion and those improper shoulders from bloodlines you thought were problem free.... M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Allen" <BarMarGSD@xxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 11:03:32 AM Subject: re: Where have all the good shoulders gone IMHO some of the good shoulders may have disappeared as a result of health issues tied to some of the lines that carried the beautiful shoulders. Barb P.S. There is nothing more beautiful than a German Shepherd with a beautiful shoulder and correct rear follow thru trotting in a large grassy field! And nothing more devastating than for that animal to die an early death from bloat/torsion, auto-immune or immune mediated diseases, etc. It is time for "WE THE PEOPLE" to take back America www.naturalcanines.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================