I guess its the same way with the national obedience title if the dog does not meet the requirements(ie DQ fault) to receive the award even through it deserved the award for obtaining highest scores. But just wondering..... if there are actually any non member dogs that have garnished the GV or GVX award. MYJOY SHEPHERDS Joyce Willis -----Original Message----- From: ELG440 <ELG440@xxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wed, Sep 11, 2013 12:42 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] What if... n a message dated 9/11/13 8:37:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, iwri@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: To punish the accomplishments of a dog because of its human's club embership doesn't sit right. t seems to me that the special titles, GV etc. are for club members. BOB r other awards are given, but for the GSDCA to give the titles, that are ot AKC titles, it makes sense to me that they would be only to club members. here has to be some reason to join the club. t could happen that a dog could go Best of Breed at our National and not e the Grand Victor. But, you would think the owner who had a dog of that uality would want to support the club. Evan L. Ginsburg syrfund.com sgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) here Type Movement and Temperament come together ===========================================================================OST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================