I think that has always been a requirement and has never been questioned.. Any dog awarded GV/GVX would not be likely to have a non-member owner. Carolyn ________________________________ From: Diane Wright <diwri@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 10:37 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] What if... I'm reading the fine print in the National premium list. I've never read the fine print or entered a special before, so maybe this paragraph has always been included: "*The title of Grand Victor, Grand Victrix and the award of the Von Stephanitz price for dogs (and miniature replicas) and all Select Titles will only be awarded to those dogs whose owner (at least one owner) is a current member in good standing of the German Shepherd Dog Club of America." What exactly is the plan if the judge points to dog entry #777 as Victor... and after the cheering, applause & general jumping up & down... someone points out that 777's owner is not a club member? Does Select 2 become GV & Select 3 become Select 2 & so on down the line...? Until someone points out Select 11's owner is also not a club member. 11 was the last Select, so either his owner joins or all the dogs in the last group return to the ring & are re-judged to fill the spot. Or, is the plan to quickly offer the non-member the chance to buy a membership on the spot, thus keeping the GV title? Or, was it a plan to boost membership just before the National? I'm not a fan of this new membership drive. There's a similar notation in the Herding premium list stating that the high scoring GSD may be denied the title Herding Victor if the owner is not a club member. How will such wins go down in National history? With asterisks? 2013 HV* Fluffsalot's Furball HXCc, RN, TD - score 72 * Fancydog's Max HXcs - score 98.5 - owner not a club member To punish the accomplishments of a dog because of its human's club membership doesn't sit right. :-/ Diane Wright ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================