In a message dated 12/20/2004 12:37:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: This is a totally new situation for me and I don't want to proceed without hearing from some of you who might have done this. Thanks. Pat We did this several times. We had a mother and daughter whelp litters side by side. It really worked well, the daughter could not produce enough milk to feed her 9 pups, mama only had 4 to raise and was able to feed the additional 9 pups. The daughter was able to help clean and stimulate the pups, just could only provide enough milk for a snack. We also did something quite unusual, we could put both mom and daughter in with all 13 pups and EVERYBODY was happy! Later, we whelped half sisters, literally side by side at the same time, and were able to co-mingle pups and moms. But the thing I used to love was watching our male dogs come and love and nuzzle the babies when mom was outside taking a break. The males would nuzzle and clean and play with the babies, until they tried to nurse. At that point the boys would make a hasty retreat. That was our experience with two bitches, two litters - hope you enjoy all that puppy lovin coming! Bruce & Laura Gilbert Chesapeake, VA Jo-Bar's Shepherds ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================