I wish I were more articulate and less inclined to hyperbole in my original post that started this thread (probably shouldn't have had that second eggnog). Yes, long striding GSDs still exist. I own one. I got my first GSD in 1962 and finished my first GSD in 1965. I have been to a lot a dog shows including many nationals. Maybe you have seen me with a video camera taping animals as they move. I don't claim to be an expert on gait but I have always been interested in the dynamics of movement. Ever since I attended an day seminar with LaMar Kuhns in 1982 I have tried to understand the complex nature of human behavior involved in the sport of dog showing that he called the "Bandwagon of Winners". I remember being shocked when he said, "the Standard is kaput!" I thought he was being cynical when he said, "The future of the Breed is in the hands of self-promoters." He could be wrong because after the last National I read post after post about our Breed being in good hands and how deep the quality is now. Going back to gait, I again refer to Mr. Kuhns who described a GSD who looked like it could "gait on eggs without breaking one and yet move with strength and power." Here's my humble take: I see GSDs with good structure; I see long striding GSDs who even have a period of suspension. I see GSDs that have smooth transmission. I see GSDs that can move at all speeds. Something has changed in terms of the engine that drives our dogs. I believe there is a complex series of events that goes on at a cellular level in the bones, muscles and ligaments and tendons of a dog when it is gaiting. Check out the video: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIFpKL0qRQ0) that created quite a discussion a while back on the List. To me that rear literally snaps with power. I just don't see it in our contemporary dogs. Maybe it's not necessary, maybe that trait was just a fad. I think its for the most part lost. I would like to be convinced that I am wrong. Jim Barnhart ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================