This is good information Dave. True, color, NATURAL color comes in all shades, strong and rich preferred. The AKC uses a "complaint-driven" system...which is peachy...but where are the testing facilities at the shows? By the time the AKC machine gets around the protocal it has established, the dog or color may be long gone. We are only looking at self regulating OUR OWN AWARDS. MANY breed clubs have HUGE requirements to be the equivalent of what we call Select. Much more than a simple hair snip. Talk about cost to people... holy smokes ! The requirements for some take training, time, MONEY, and huge HUGE effort, to say nothing of HEAD TO TAIL HEALTH CERTIFICATION AND DISCLOSURE. The AKC allows this, because it is in relation to a breed's own "in house awards".... Our requirements will be minor by comparison. Just DON'T DO IT. http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com Home of : CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle WEBSITE PUP-DATED SEPT 22, 2008 On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:36 AM, David Fritsche <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > With all of the attention to this issue, I thought I would > review our standard and the AKC show rules to see just what > they say. I have copied them below for our consideration > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================