Have read both sides of the argument on this, and have mixed feelings so of course here's the reason. My first shepherd in the early 70's was in my eye the best dog ever, but I had never been to a dog show or really looked at "great" shepherds. She did obedience training (think we all started there) and got her CD. I wanted to breed her because she was so smart and beautiful in my eye. She was a silver sable, a little square with a good back, dark eyes and nice feet, though I did not know that then.But she sure lacked pigment and angulation. I managed to get Don and Ann Brown's name, Sybarite GSD's, and called to breed to a dog....any dog. They asked me to come over and bring the bitch. They had some stunning animals, though I still had no idea what made them that. They were so kind to me and my Astra, and I ended up breeding to a Morgan son. They charged me $100 so it was not about the money for them, with the promise I would bring the pups over and let Ann evaluate the litter. Agreed. It was their was of being kind and trying to educate. This relationship turned into a many year mentorship, close friendship and long term dedication on my part to this breed. There were many who gathered at their place weekly, their door was always open. We all learned together. So, if they had slammed their door on me then, would I still be in this 36 years later?? Don't think so. It is an odd balance when someone calls to breed to your dog. You have to take the time to feel them out, see their purpose, see their bitch and be kind!! To offer suggestions..... Doors that slam hard are difficult to open. By the way, 3 of the 4 pups from that bitch went into pet homes and had a great life, living many years. Were they mediocre, maybe. 1 bitch I kept at Ann's suggestion...she won a couple large puppy matches and got her Ch. ...................hooked for life!! And I was so disappointed my silver girl had no silver babies!!! LOL Molly Trillia German Shepherds since 1972 ph 409-287-3940 Member GSDCA, GSDCC, GSDC of Beaumont (recording secretary), Life member CKC "The greatest discovery of any generation is that a human being can alter his life by altering his attitude"-William James **************Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics â?? check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redirhttp://www.games.com?ncid=emlcntusgame00000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================