I don't think anyone is saying that breeder's should not be involved in getting puppy buyers involved in shows and performance events. However, as we all know, when puppy people come out to see your babies, they go into information overload and don't retain much of what you tell them. But, when they hear or see the same things you told them, from a second party (AKC) they tend to remember it. AKC is well known and considered an authority to most people looking for purebred puppies. They also have the means to reach hundreds of thousands of people. I don't know any breeders that have that power.  Ok, that said, when a new puppy buyer registers their puppy, they get a flyer for the breed parent club and pet insurance information.  Would it be too much to ask AKC to include a list and brief explaination of the fun performance events available for the dogs? Or, a page about the importance of socialization and obedience training for the pet dog? Or, how about breeders sending the new owner information to AKC and they in turn send a reminder to register the dog in their name and send above said info to the new owner? As far as what I personally say and do with my puppy people. Well, several of them have come to dog shows with me.  In my last litter, the folks who came down from WA to meet and take Cheyenne as a service dog, attended a dog show with me as I was working and handling a Wheaton. They were so imp ressed that their autistic son will soon be starting an agility class with Cheyenne so he learns about competition and sports. Another pup is doing herding and obedience. A third pup started as just a family pet. But, they listened and when he got huge, they called and asked for a trainer in their area. They also came to the dog show, just to see what it is about. They are now getting their 5yr old son involved in training and he says he wants to go to more dog shows. The previous litter has 3 CGC certified dogs, two therapy dogs, one with a CD and one girl doing 4H and Girl Scout events with her dog.  So, yes, I can say with a straight face, that I involve my puppy people, stay in contact with them, offer obedience training for all my pups and invite them to shows. Ok, I don't breed often so I can do this. No, they don't all follow thru. But, the pups that are just pets are just as happy as the ones who are doing AKC or 4H events or whatever.  Not everyone can and does do this. That's not to say they don't put the info out there. It just may not be retained by the new owner. It would just be nice to see AKC do more to reel them in after the breeder gives them the info. Afterall, they are the ones making the money off our backs. JMHO. Laura     -----Original Message----- From: Jessica MacMillan <spotted101@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: grnram415@xxxxxxx; showgs d-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 1:22 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: So here's a thought.... I have gotten quite a bite of feedback from people about my post... Here's my question to all of you who feel that AKC should step up to the plate. Agility, was introduced to get the average pet person involved in AKC sports. ally was introduced to get the average pet person involved and so on down the ine. Can you actually tell me, with a straight face that you are actively telling our pet folks all the interesting things they can do with their dogs? Seriously especially people who only have mostly bred dogs for the breedring and very ew dogs with other titles... And I am not excluding myself. When was the last time you told some new folks about a dog show? They should ome so they can watch agility, rally, you name it? On your last litter of pups, id you send e-mails out to remind folks they should be going through obedience lasses - some do get hooked you know. Yes, AKC should probably do more, but considering how far they were behind the 8 all 10 years ago, strides are being made. 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