[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sick and Tired of Dog Talk???
- From: ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx, Stormy435@xxxxxxx, cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:01:50 -0700 (PDT)
I saw a dog that did very well at major shows under all arounders that had a
very dead tail and dragged his rear recently. It must have been clean coming
and going. <G> Ann
Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: After being off the List for
a month I came back on about 3 weeks ago and after
seeing conversation going on at that time...... I POSTED a long post about
dragging
toes, flopping tails and rotating stifles....no follow through, no drive and
rears that
pump up and down instead of drive forward, and flipping UP pasterns...etc...
One Lister was very interested and engaged in the conversation and when she
used a terminology used for Dalmations for a 'fast or short stepping'
dog.....and
that terminology generated more conversation than the concern for the
malfunctioning
rears of a Herding Breed.........??
THAT being said.......without Evan's Schedule in front of me I think it is time
to discuss
colors again!!!!!! YIKES!!!
Actually someone ( no I won't say who....nor the pedigree ) sent me a photo of
a very
nice looking white GSD that was from a brother sister inbreeding.......and
there were
three very prominant show dogs in the first three generations. The other side
...the
( dam ) were dogs I would not recognize.....ALL were listed as black and tans
or black
and creams. Surprised me on the inbreeding....and the dogs in the pedigree.
Has anyone seen any of the dogs with malfunctioning rears herd.... to know if
they can
twist, turn, accelerate and stop and turn on a dime while evading and herding
sheep?
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Peggy
To: Stormy435@xxxxxxx ; cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:06 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sick and Tired of Dog Talk???
I think Evan keeps track of when we are supposed to start these cycles,
doesn't he? Evan...when do we start talking about dragging toes
again??????????
Peggy
While I don't have a "shiny happy" persona, I do my best to keep a positive
outlook on life. Sometimes, in certain situations, it's difficult to do
so... Like when I think about the upcoming presidential election. But, I
digress...
Another thing that makes me kinda sad is this List... The sport of GSD
conformation showing is exhibiting serious signs of morbidity. (Maybe
dying, maybe not.) It doesn't take a "Pillar of the Breed" to figure this
out.
There is one thing I've learned from my life experiences - *apathy* kills.
I hear experienced GSD fanciers say over and over, "Newbies don't want to
learn. They don't have the desire to be serious students of the Breed."
While there may be some truth to that, I'd like to counter with - do you,
who subscribe to the above, have any desire to *teach* and share your
knowledge?
What has transpired on this List lends credence to *both* claims... From
what I can tell, Newbies and Oldies alike are suffering from a serious case
of apathy...
Here's why I say what I say... A week or so ago, I found an article in an
old Review regarding the GSD Standard. I thought the article was great and
very much applicable today. I posted a synopsis of this article to the
List.
I was hoping my post would generate some lively conversation re. our
Standard. I received exactly *two* responses to this post. (Thanks, you
two!)
Yet, somebody posts they are looking for a concrete Shepherd and just look
at the number of responses this post has generated. Or post something
about the weather and check out the abundance of comments.
I see nothing wrong with posts such as these, but I do see something wrong
with what this List has become... Sometimes, it seems like everyone is
willing to talk about anything *but* German Shepherd Dogs!
Several times in the past, I've tried to initiate serious discussion
relating to GSD's and have gotten nowhere. For the longest time, I took
this personal... That I'm just a Newbie and nobody is interested in what I
have to say. However, after talking to other Listers, who aren't Newbies at
all, I know this isn't the case... These very experienced and successful
fanciers have tried to stimulate GSD discussions and they too have been very
disappointed by the lack of interest.
This List is *incredible* when it comes to helping one another with whatever
type of problem - whether it be dog related or very personal. However, this
List could be a *phenomenal* teaching and learning tool! Look at the
membership roster and think about the cumulative years of experience
represented there. It kinda blows my mind!
Okay, I'll shut up now, but before I go, I've got to ask both you Newbies
and Oldies...
Are you sick and tired of talking about the German Shepherd Dog and all that
encompasses - past, present, and future? I seriously hope I'm wrong, but
it sure seems that way...
Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member
Allemande German Shepherd Dogs
Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam
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