[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Sick and Tired of Dog Talk???
- From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx
- To: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:31:15 EDT
I started replying in private, then changed my mind. I came on this list
over 12 years ago. The only major change that I have seen is that the
nastiness of the last year or two has gone. (whew). Discussion of
conformation,
standards,flopping tails, dog show judges always have been cyclical, as
somebody
starts a discussion that hasn't been around for a while. The food
discussions, the white GSD, etc., all are cyclical, too. It is possible that
the long
time listers (with more GSD knowledge that I could ever hope to have) have
posted on various subjects so often, so many times, that they feel they are
not being heard. ( Actually I miss our "marbles game" posts...No,Zoe I won't
LOL..., the recipes around holidays). :-) Asking for help and getting it
(in any form) is NEVER withheld...privately and on list, from what I have seen.
Understanding both sides of the equation, people more new to the GSD oriented
discussions and people who have in the past had the same discussions numerous
times, I guess the only solution is to keep asking questions of those
remarkable people who have been in the trenches for a long, long time.
What I'm trying to say, is that the cycles need to be re-started, and the
people who, in the past, have been the educators need to understand we are
listening.....still.
I know I feel the same way about my anti-dog legislation posts. THey are
about our future in dogs. But I just keep posting. I just keep hoping that
you all are listening and acting on the information.
Stormy
In a message dated 7/24/08 10:50:55 AM, cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> While I don't have a "shiny happy" persona, I do my best to keep a positive
> outlook on life. Sometimes, in certain situations, it's difficult to do
> so... Like when I think about the upcoming presidential election. But, I
> digress...
>
> Another thing that makes me kinda sad is this List... The sport of GSD
> conformation showing is exhibiting serious signs of morbidity. (Maybe
> dying, maybe not.) It doesn't take a "Pillar of the Breed" to figure this
> out.
>
> There is one thing I've learned from my life experiences - *apathy* kills.
>
> I hear experienced GSD fanciers say over and over, "Newbies don't want to
> learn. They don't have the desire to be serious students of the Breed."
>
> While there may be some truth to that, I'd like to counter with - do you,
> who subscribe to the above, have any desire to *teach* and share your
> knowledge?
>
> What has transpired on this List lends credence to *both* claims... From
> what I can tell, Newbies and Oldies alike are suffering from a serious case
> of apathy...
>
> Here's why I say what I say... A week or so ago, I found an article in an
> old Review regarding the GSD Standard. I thought the article was great and
> very much applicable today. I posted a synopsis of this article to the
> List.
>
> I was hoping my post would generate some lively conversation re. our
> Standard. I received exactly *two* responses to this post. (Thanks, you
> two!)
>
> Yet, somebody posts they are looking for a concrete Shepherd and just look
> at the number of responses this post has generated. Or post something
> about the weather and check out the abundance of comments.
>
> I see nothing wrong with posts such as these, but I do see something wrong
> with what this List has become... Sometimes, it seems like everyone is
> willing to talk about anything *but* German Shepherd Dogs!
>
> Several times in the past, I've tried to initiate serious discussion
> relating to GSD's and have gotten nowhere. For the longest time, I took
> this personal... That I'm just a Newbie and nobody is interested in what I
> have to say. However, after talking to other Listers, who aren't Newbies at
> all, I know this isn't the case... These very experienced and successful
> fanciers have tried to stimulate GSD discussions and they too have been very
> disappointed by the lack of interest.
>
> This List is *incredible* when it comes to helping one another with whatever
> type of problem - whether it be dog related or very personal. However, this
> List could be a *phenomenal* teaching and learning tool! Look at the
> membership roster and think about the cumulative years of experience
> represented there. It kinda blows my mind!
>
> Okay, I'll shut up now, but before I go, I've got to ask both you Newbies
> and Oldies...
>
> Are you sick and tired of talking about the German Shepherd Dog and all that
> encompasses - past, present, and future? I seriously hope I'm wrong, but
> it sure seems that way...
>
>
> Paulette McGuirt, GSDCA Member
> Allemande German Shepherd Dogs
> Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam
>
>
"You may never know what results come from your action.
But if you do nothing, there will be no result."
Mahatma Gandhi
Stormy Hope
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