Antonio By saying "according to this List".......you include and blindly indict ALL OF US without knowing from whence you speak. There are many, many people who have champions or even not champions that live out long lives, being loved and beloved members of the family. I can add our names to that group, along with many others . Before you condemn every member of this list, why don't you make sure you have the facts straight? Your "experience" may only encompass a very minute group, so maybe you need to find new contacts amongst the GSD fancy, before passing such uninformed judgment on the rest of us. Kathy Tank http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com Home of : *CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle WEBSITE UPDATED AUG 6, 2008* On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, antonio ybarra <antybo0@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Excellent point Syd. Some people on this list believe that being a > responsible owner means: cleaning dog runs, feeding and breeding they're > dogs. The best owner according to this list, should make the dog a > champion, breed the dog to death,>>>>>>>> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================