[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Ruining the breed in three generations.

  • From: "solanagsd" <solanagsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <DaniaKarloff@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:22:40 -0800

WOW with all these things in our GSD's makes ya wonder why we bother
to breed at all!
Deborah Gebhard
Solana Shepherds,MI
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <DaniaKarloff@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:35 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Ruining the breed in three generations.


>
> In a message dated 12/8/2004 2:08:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> RckyIizard@xxxxxxx writes:
> It's  just like right now.  There are dogs who produce dead tails,
dragging
> toes, bad temperaments.  You can see trends in offspring of certain  dogs,
> just
> by watching a show and checking the catalog.  Yes, some of  the offspring
are
> just drop-dead gorgeous--if you can get past the  issue.  No way will I
breed
> to
> a dog who produces major issues, I  don't CARE if he throws superstars. I
> will
> find another nice dog  instead.
>
>
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> Liz,
> I think that what Susan and Tom are trying to say is that while you  may
be
> avoiding all together the issue of DM, there is more to breeding a good
GSD
> than just eliminating DM.  Dogs have a myriad of genetic problems we  want
to
> avoid: esophagus problems, hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia, autoimmune
disease,
> heart murmurs, pancreatitis, dentition problems, bite problems, off
colors,
> missing testicles, von Willebrands disease, retinal dysplasia, thyroid
> problems, dwarfism, epilepsy, pannus, hernia, hemophilia, deafness, cleft
palate,
> and many others.  And please note that I am not even mentioning  structure
> problems such as correct front assembly, proper rear angulation,  correct
croup
> angulation, good feet, good proportions, erect ears,  etc., and I am also
not
> including temperament and intelligence factors  which are genetic and very
much
> part of a correct GSD.
>
> Now, if you were to have a gene marker for each of these problems, it is
> unlikely/impossible that you would be able to find that "Ohhh so perfect
dog
> that was not a carrier of any of the problems mentioned above and was also
> structurally correct."  So, I believe that both Susan and Tom are talking
about
> having to make wise choices about what you can and you can't avoid and
what you
> are willing to risk and what you are not willing to negotiate... and  much
of
> that will depend on your bitch and her own genetic background.
>
> While I think DNA gene markers will be a wonderful tool to be used by
> responsible and caring breeders - I don't believe they will be "the
solution" to
> all of dogs' problems.  And... more than ever... I think that Fred
Migliore  has
> the right response when he says "Breeding is an art form not just a
> scientific experiment"
>
> Dania
>
>
>
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