This is a constant discussion in our breed because we have the "I don't have it in my line, why should I test?" issue. Personally, we do health testing for everything for a couple of main reasons: 1. It's easier to prevent rather than fix later. If you breed to a dog that has health clearances, yet you still have a problem, that is one thing. If you breed to a dog who doesn't have health clearances and you find out after the fact there is a problem, that's an issue. 2. I hate being blamed for things. It is easier to cover my b*tt in the first place. Some years ago, we had the #1 stud dog in Dalmatians and he was tested for everything because my mom didn't want him blamed if an issue cropped up. We had lots of suggestions that he was tested because he "might" have the problem. We also made it a requirement that the bitch owners also do hips, eyes and ears (thyroid optional). Only one person didn't breed to Rob because of the requirement and no more and more stud dog owners are requiring it in our breed (and CHIC numbers are very prevalent now). And it's a requirement to breed to any of our boys now. 3. The public - with the bad rap that dog folks are getting these days, I think we owe it to our pet buyers to test. Yes, things do crop up, we still get deafs in dalmatians and there are still dysplastic GSDs, but if you are responsible and testing, at least you are trying. I hate bitchy dogs and doggy bitches, but I hate lame dogs and hypothyroid dogs even more, especially when my pet buyers call to tell me about it! JMHO. Jess M.Paisley Dals (www.paisleydals.com)& The Shepherd Girls (Simmie, CGC, TDI, TC, HIC & Pepper, HIC)Member of: DCA, GSDCA & GTCDC _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================