When I worked for the vet in San Antonio from which the first case of rabies in a dog was confirmed in the outbreak in south Texas in the early 90's, I was told by her that the Rabies virus did not do well outside the body for very long. Her statement to me at the time was that thoroughly washing the wound with a good helping of soap and water removed about 90% of the virus from wounds. Of course washing any bite or scratch with a good antibactrial soap is advised to help prevent infection, but she seemed to say that with what research she had done when Rabies was suspected on this particular animal, she had discovered the bit about washing wounds and Rabies. Of course it has to be done as quickly after possible exposure as possible. Maybe, since this is Suzannes area of expertese, she can shed some light on this as well? As for me, when this dog, and numerous others shortly thereafter, came up pos for Rabies, the Texas Veterinary Medical Association partially footed the bill (my clinic paid for the rest for its employees) for us to get the pre-exposure series of Rabies shots, which I took advantage of. I boostered it I believe 3 or 4 years later. As of 2004 my titers were still quite high, so I decided I really didnt need to booster again. I know my former boss said that she and the rest of the vet students got a pre-exposure series while in vet school and when all this happened she had her titers checked and didnt need to booster it, and that was quite a few years after he initial vaccination series. Cindy Gialluca Cyneca German Shepherds http://www.gsdcofaustin.org/ :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: tsaligsds@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: My specialty so let me help you out here. There is no 'tratmernt' for rabies in animals - only humans. Human post-exposure treatment involves a massive dose of Human Immunoglobulin split into multiple doses - 1/2 administered directly into the bite and the other half in muscle tissue - as soon as possible after exposure. Doseage is based on the person's body weight = BIG, ugly, syringes!! This is followed up with rabies vaccine on days 1,3,7,14,and 21 post exposure - id - intradermal and no big deal! The first medication is someone else's rabies antibodies. The remaining vaccines are to jump start your system to build its own antibodies. In animals, recommended course of action is: if unvaccinated or NOT CURRENT - euthanize and test or a strictly supervised SIX MONTH quarantine if the owner absolutely pitches a fit. Vaccinate/revaccinate at the end of month five. If vaccinated - revaccinate immediately and hold in a strick quarantine for 45 days. Yep, QUARANTINE EVEN OF VACCINATED. The CDC Rabies Compendium, which is the rabies bible for MDs and GVMs, states specifically that "rabies titers MAY NOT be used in leiu of current vaccines." Currently there is only one way to test and that is to examine brain/neurologic tissue - a direct black light examination will cause live rabies virus to glow, slides/stained will show the virus. DNA testing can show the animal of origin. These are divided into dog, bat, raccoon, skunk or Coyote rabies and the variations CAN be passed by a different species. For instance, a raccoon can be carrying 'ba t' rabies. Vaccinations can have a break in efficacy and may not alw ays be effective. Hense teh quarantine for vaccinated animals. Several years ago the Alabama State veterinarian was researching/experimenting with post-exposure treatment in vaccinated dogs but died prior to publishing his data. He maintained a pack of hunting hounds that were used in his research as well as his hunting companions. All of the official rabies research is conducted in the CDC facility in Atlanta. The Compendium is available on line for anyone who would like to see it. It is an interesting document. Contains an appendix of every approved rabies vaccine manufactured, length of time approved, and what species research was conducted on. There is currently research underway to get approval for a 7 year rabies vaccine but it will take at least 10 years to get it approved IF they are starting from scratch on test animals. Leisurely reading...... Between the Compendium and the Mortality/Morbidity Report you can see why Suzie is a wonderful conversationalist....... LOL Suzanne www.tsalishepherds.com Home of Ch Cookie HT PT RN TC CGC, Ch Flair, BIS/BISS Ch Yancy HIC HT PT RA CD TC CGC BH, Ch Flash, Mousser (13 points/1 mjr), Tess [150 PLUS ROM points/40 ATAA points], and Lil' Miss Gilli RN[Mjr Res Winner]! 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