In a message dated 11/5/2006 6:32:20 AM Pacific Standard Time, PAGAIRS@xxxxxxx writes: Its my understanding that both the sire and dam have to be carriers I doubt this and the reson I do is, I have a bitch that produced esophogus in her first litter, then I bred her a different way but to a dog that had (after I bred her) produced 2 in a litter. I got none... Is it luck of the draw or is it a single dog issue? Don't know.. Deb ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================