[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Now I am going to vent....
- From: Kate Syssoloff <rockannand@xxxxxxx>
- To: marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 11:27:33 -0600 (MDT)
Boy, does this ring home! I hope you are all able to find a replacement. My
super vet only practices now every so often. His practice is still on his
property, but more often than not, he's off seeing the world. Reliable for 25
years, we worked so well together often just over the phone (he is an hours
drive), and then pick up a prescription at the pharmacy. He used to pack me up
with meds to have on hand so he could prescribe over the phone. He was a large
and small animal Vet, hadn't bought into the computer age and did everything on
paper which kept cost down.. a real country Vet who knew and did it all.
Artificial insemination? No problem.. cows, horses and dogs.. easy peasy.
Your bill in the mail or on account, which ever was easiest. He's got new Vets
in there, and while they have obviously been directed by my Vet, there has been
an obvious jump in Veterinary prices. Double in most cases. If I come in and
he's there.. he'll say "Oh it's you! I'll take this patient!" But, that has
happened only a few times in the last year or so. So.. I just decided to give
up breeding. Without his support, it's too risky and far too expensive a hobby
for me at this point in my life. C'est la vie!
Kate @ Rockannand
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, pretties1@xxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2012 9:19:31 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Now I am going to vent....
Like Kathy our 'ace' reproductive Vet retired a couple of years ago. He
almost apologized
to us as he knew how important he was to us. I told him he had no right to
retire before we
were through breeding. ( besides he is younger than us!! ) ........but he did
anyway...<G>
I swear it is like losing a much trusted and loved family Doctor!!!
It has been a struggle..... we have run upon many things similar to what Kathy
descirbes in
what some Vets require. It has taken literally three different Vets to
replace the one.....and
the three together don't come close to his availability and capability and the
trust between us.
sigh.........
Most of us know the progesterone numbers, know the drill as well as most Vets,
and handle
A.I.'s and natural breedings just fine, and can handle most of it ourselves
anyway.
(.... without knowing how many "folds" are in the vaginal lining our whole
life...... )
<G>
We cannot however run a progesterone test as accurate as the Labs, and we need
that
before investing in the huge cost of breeding with fresh chilled or frozen
semen. It's basically
simple. Even a Vet Tech can draw the blood for the test to be sent to the Lab
for results, and
then call you to let you know the numbers.
Anything else is fluff and..............KA-CHING!!
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.Marhaven.com
From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx To: pretties1@xxxxxxxxx ; Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Now I am going to vent....
Here's the scary thing...I know what I want, I understand progesterone timing,
I know when to
breed a bitch depending on if we are doing fresh, chilled, frozen etc. AND
still there were
screw ups with the labs (plural!). I did what I thought was my due diligence
by carefully
interviewing a new-to-me vet.
What about the 1st or 2nd or 3rd time breeder who get taken by all this
nonsense?????
Vaginal folds?????? VAGINAL FOLDS??????? Arrrrgggghhhhh! I'm still upset!!!
Congrats on a lovely litter:)))))
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
pretties1@xxxxxxxxx writes:
I feel your pain!! Had much of the same excitement last year here in
Dallas...needless
to say my bitch didn't conceive. Next time she came in season, I drove 1,000
miles to
Illinois; tests done, bitch bred, 61 days later - 12 beautiful babies!!
Sue
---- Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx wrote:
Sooooooooooooooooooo.....my reproductive guru retired and the last litter I >
bred I
had one HELL of a time getting progesterone testing done...one Vet forgot
to call
Fedex,
the next vet ordered the wrong test (would tell me if a bitch was
spayed...WT******????),
one only did a test-by-color (oh just > shoot me!), offices had shortened
hours for
MLK's b-day...I can't make this up. > It's a miracle we got
puppies.
> So, I spent a bit of time interviewing vets. Found one locally, spoke to
their reproductive
guru, which lab, hours, policies, services etc. Yes, they would run
p-tests, yes they use Quest,
(bonus), not a problem Ms. Salvucci, we'll be happy to assist you. I still
have our e-mail
correspondence and then the notes I took during our telephone conversation.
>
> So, gal comes in season, today is either day 1 or 2, make an appointment
for Monday.
All I want is p-testing from this office, that's it. (I have > another vet
for other services,
3x the distance).
Receptionist Monica is sugar sweet and makes an appointment for a
"reproductive
work up". I'm sorry...a what???? I explain I just want P-testing.
"Mable" would have to call me back. Yesssss......that's who I spoke to
before, she
knows I use other vets and said she'd look forward to working with > me.
I pull my copies of the correspondence out, with my notes, even have the
dates that Mable
and I spoke.
>
> So Mable calls back, she who assured me MONTHS AGO they would be happy
to > run progesterone. That's all I want, did I mention that???? Nope,
they > now feel it's
better for the bitch and the owner (?????) that the bitch has a
reproductive exam.
>
> I didn't mean to sound stupid so I tried to sound patient and asked "what
all does that entail"???
>
> *a physical exam *a vaginal exam via scope to examine the folds of the
vaginal lining
(say > what????) > *a smear to see how far along cornification is (a little
early for that,
> no? besides did I forget to mention I'M DOING PROGESTERONE)
> and...wait for it....>
> *progesterone IF I wanted it (IF?????? IIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFF????)
>
> No biggie.....I'll just drive 3x the distance.
> Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
> Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
> visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
>
>
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