Oh it just s**cks having to break in a new reproductive vet!!!!!!! I'm soooooooooooo glad I'm not the only one who didn't know about vaginal folds! Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) In a message dated 7/7/2012 12:19:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Like Kathy our 'ace' reproductive Vet retired a couple of years ago. He almost apologized to us as he knew how important he was to us. I told him he had no right to retire before we were through breeding. ( besides he is younger than us!! ) ........but he did anyway...<G> I swear it is like losing a much trusted and loved family Doctor!!! It has been a struggle..... we have run upon many things similar to what Kathy descirbes in what some Vets require. It has taken literally three different Vets to replace the one.....and the three together don't come close to his availability and capability and the trust between us. sigh......... Most of us know the progesterone numbers, know the drill as well as most Vets, and handle A.I.'s and natural breedings just fine, and can handle most of it ourselves anyway. (.... without knowing how many "folds" are in the vaginal lining our whole life...... ) <G> We cannot however run a progesterone test as accurate as the Labs, and we need that before investing in the huge cost of breeding with fresh chilled or frozen semen. It's basically simple. Even a Vet Tech can draw the blood for the test to be sent to the Lab for results, and then call you to let you know the numbers. Anything else is fluff and..............KA-CHING!! Carolyn _marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx) _www.Marhaven.com_ (http://www.marhaven.com/) From: _Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxxx (mailto:Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx) To: _pretties1@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:pretties1@xxxxxxxxx) ; _Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Sent: Friday, AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Now I am going to vent.... Here's the scary thing...I know what I want, I understand progesterone timing, I know when to breed a bitch depending on if we are doing fresh, chilled, frozen etc. AND still there were screw ups with the labs (plural!). I did what I thought was my due diligence by carefully interviewing a new-to-me vet. What about the 1st or 2nd or 3rd time breeder who get taken by all this nonsense????? Vaginal folds?????? VAGINAL FOLDS??????? Arrrrgggghhhhh! I'm still upset!!! Congrats on a lovely litter:))))) Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (_http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) ) _pretties1@xxxxxxxxxx (mailto:pretties1@xxxxxxxxx) writes: I feel your pain!! Had much of the same excitement last year here in Dallas...needless to say my bitch didn't conceive. Next time she came in season, I drove 1,000 miles to Illinois; tests done, bitch bred, 61 days later - 12 beautiful babies!! Sue ---- _Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxxx (mailto:Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx) wrote: Sooooooooooooooooooo.....my reproductive guru retired and the last litter I > bred I had one HELL of a time getting progesterone testing done...one Vet forgot to call Fedex, the next vet ordered the wrong test (would tell me if a bitch was spayed...WT******????), one only did a test-by-color (oh just > shoot me!), offices had shortened hours for MLK's b-day...I can't make this up. > It's a miracle we got puppies. > So, I spent a bit of time interviewing vets. Found one locally, spoke to their reproductive guru, which lab, hours, policies, services etc. Yes, they would run p-tests, yes they use Quest, (bonus), not a problem Ms. Salvucci, we'll be happy to assist you. I still have our e-mail correspondence and then the notes I took during our telephone conversation. > > So, gal comes in season, today is either day 1 or 2, make an appointment for Monday. All I want is p-testing from this office, that's it. (I have > another vet for other services, 3x the distance). Receptionist Monica is sugar sweet and makes an appointment for a "reproductive work up". I'm sorry...a what???? I explain I just want P-testing. "Mable" would have to call me back. Yesssss......that's who I spoke to before, she knows I use other vets and said she'd look forward to working with > me. I pull my copies of the correspondence out, with my notes, even have the dates that Mable and I spoke. > > So Mable calls back, she who assured me MONTHS AGO they would be happy to > run progesterone. That's all I want, did I mention that???? Nope, they > now feel it's better for the bitch and the owner (?????) that the bitch has a reproductive exam. > > I didn't mean to sound stupid so I tried to sound patient and asked "what all does that entail"??? > > *a physical exam *a vaginal exam via scope to examine the folds of the vaginal lining (say > what????) > *a smear to see how far along cornification is (a little early for that, > no? besides did I forget to mention I'M DOING PROGESTERONE) > and...wait for it....> > *progesterone IF I wanted it (IF?????? IIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFF????) > > No biggie.....I'll just drive 3x the distance. > Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC > Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions > visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (_http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/) ) > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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