In a message dated 4/14/05 8:45:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: .we have one standard...we should have one type of show GSD...and please do not say we do just have one, cuz that just aint so....a good friend of mine said...our standard is like a moving target!.....and we all know a moving target is hard to hit!.... In a perfect world. But, as long as we have judges who are looking for different things, we will have different dogs. We allow judges to judge our dogs at all-breed shows that have limited understanding of our standard. The only solution would be a limitation on who is allowed to judge German shepherds. That would be hard to do, as the AKC controls who get a judging licence and who does not. So many get a license for our breed, so as to be able to do the group. Perhaps the AKC should stop that limitation. We also have three times the Specialty shows as the next closest breed. The German shepherd is not a dog that can be judged by what it says in the book, it takes experience and knowledge. I do not have a solution, but I no longer enter an all-breed show, unless I know the judge knows our breed. That does not work for everyone, because in some areas the all-breed shows are the only opportunity there is. The best solution is to not worry about numbers. We have good competition in all venues. There are no easy champions due to the low entries, (ask someone who is campaigning a dog rather than someone who hasn't shown in years). We have great fun at both all-breed and Specialty shows. Do we need a solution if we don't have a problem? Why do we keep saying we want only one type of dog? Is there something basically wrong with having two or more styles? That is the question that seems to get ignored. If it isn't broken, don't ask for your money back. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================