The last time the national was in St. Louis...while watching the show I bought a three month old puppy....I called American Airlines to see if I could fly this dog home with me....they confirmed the dog..I went to a local vet near the show to get the health cert.....two days later, Sunday morning, when the dog and I got to the airport American Airlines informed me that my dog had been bumped off the flight and there were no other fights to the Bayarea that day that had room for the puppy.....Thurban Warrick saved me that day.....I flew home and he flew his dog and mine back to Vegas...a few days later Thurban put the puppy on a plane to San Francisco........a few years later when I returned that same dog ( now grown) to the breeder the hassle and time it took me to get the dog back....well lets just say I am very surprised I didn't get arrested...my behavior was wrong, but my famous temper got the best of me......three days later I finally got the bitch back to the breeder...I remember a few years ago Kobe had a terrible time at the airport trying to get to the National, and I'm sure there are many other horrible airline stories about flying dogs....for some reason I now have another show dog ( misery loves company I guess)...If this young dog should happen to win or go reserve at his upcoming futurity.......after deep thought and conversations with his REAL owner ( my wife)...we will fly him 3000 miles to the National...I just hope I don't go to jail..I'll do my best to try to win at the futurity...but if we lose.....it won't break my heart......don't tell the Ginsburgs I said that...lol...they own this dog too.......Ed Hill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ileana" <inquestgsd@xxxxxxx> To: "scenecrest geo" <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: "d fritsche" <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx>, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:53:12 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: National on the east coast-- St Louis was the year that we realized we would either drive to a National or not go. Ask how many people had trouble flying out with their dogs the Sunday after the National. It was chaotic at best. Ileana Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2013, at 10:27 PM, Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I grew up spending my summers as MO that St Louis was the > Gaitway to the West as it still is. >  > According to all the sites this place is the center of the USA. >  > http://www.kansastravel.org/geographicalcenter.htm >  > Everything else is west, east, south or north of it. >  > Theresa > On Thu, 3/21/13, David Fritsche <d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Talking distance ....... > EAST OF CENTER >> 2014, 2015, 2016 - St. Louis, MO >> 2013 - Philly, PA >> 2011 - Topeka KS  >> 2009 - Springfield, OH >> 2008 - Beaumont, TX >> 2006 - St Louis, MO >> 2005 - Concord, NC >> 2003 - Daytona, FL >> 2002 - St. Louis, MO >> 2001 - Perry, GA >> 2000 - Columbus, OH > > WEST OF CENTER >> 2012 - Ft Collins, CO >> 2010 - Salt Lake City, UT >> 2007 - Ft. 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