[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: More food for thought on DM
- From: Jen Proud <proudk911@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Rbuffdogs ." <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:54:28 -0500
I looked at my email and saw I forgot to say that diagnostic testing is 99%
specific when an imaging study and CSF evaluation are done combined with
patient history... Which is pretty suggestive I would say.
But, there is still the around 1% that weren't...
I am just waiting for enough evidence to accumulate that PROVES the MSU DM
test wasn't the "be all, end all" test for DM; that there are (at least)
two types as we all know. Perhaps then the funding will begin again to
discover the genes for GSD type DM, so our breed can have a genetic test...
I still feel like the GSD as a breed got slighted and cut out of that
deal... Lots of us donated to DM research have we not? Then a test that
doesn't even work with our breed? Horse puckeys!
It sure was a surprise when the sire of my OFA N/N DM tested dog died of DM
(confirmed by necropsy) at 13! Um... Shouldn't she be an obligate
carrier?!?
Well, at least I saved my money by finding that out before I tested the
rest of the family... That would have been good money after bad in my book!
JP&P
On Sunday, August 24, 2014, Rbuffdogs . <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes Jen and as I said earlier necropsy is still the only way to
> definitively prove DM, just as you said.
> Unless that protocol has changed. So far it is still the case.
>
> Kathy
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> On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Jen Proud <proudk911@xxxxxxxxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','proudk911@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>
>> Well...
>> There actually ARE CSF protein/chem tests that can lend to the diagnosis
>> of
>> DM in the GSD... And of course, a CT or MRI easily rules out the presence
>> of orthopedic disease; EMG can conclusively show the loss of nerve
>> function
>> to each root (and show where the lesions are at on the spinal cord by the
>> roots caudal to them won't have proper function). When combined with
>> patient history, this is the "gold standard" for diagnosing DM.
>> But, yes- necropsy/histopathology are the only way to give definitive
>> diagnosis of DM- however the use of modern diagnostics gives us enough
>> information (as proven by necropsy it was indeed DM) to definitely suggest
>> DM.
>> Thankfully, we've come a long way from 1973 when DM was first described as
>> a neurological disease- and difficult to tell apart from the myriad of
>> other spinal pathologies...
>> Jen P & her Pack wearing the nerd hat
>>
>> On Sunday, August 24, 2014, Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tanksr@xxxxxxxxx');>> wrote:
>>
>> > I could be wrong, but I thought you could only positively diagnose DM by
>> > cross section of the spinal cord.
>> > Not that I am by any means defending the test.
>> > Ken
>> >
>> >
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