You people would have cringed back in the day when Ernie Loeb was the master of the breed in this country. Joe Bihari often tells the story that he was glad when Ernie just gave him the time of day..let alone tell him his dogs were good. The old timers were not very "politically correct" back then..they were harder people who had come out of hard times. There wasn't much time for "feel" good applause..or "Atta boys" for effort. You knew back then when someone gave you a compliment..it was the truth..and not meant just to make you feel good. Those types of people help you improve at first they might piss you off..but if you listen to their criticism you will learn. The people who criticized Bull for lifting did me a GREAT service. Had they not been so critical..I could not have improved. Yes..it hurt..and yes..they weren't very nice..but at the end of the day it made me more determined to improve. Now some of his biggest critics come to us and say " You know..we were critical of Bull..but you guys took a dog with a fault..and improved..you guys have done well." C.Grainger > [Original Message] > From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> > To: <MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 7/10/2006 4:18:17 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Mediocre > > > > In a message dated 7/10/2006 5:00:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > MarcatoGSD@xxxxxxx writes: > But quite frankly, I don't think one should need to own a champion in order > to know what is great, good, or mediocre! Owning/showing/breeding champions > > has nothing to do with knowing what is the best and what is mediocre! > > > > > > > You are missing the point entirely...sigh. You said, and I quote (again): > > It's all subjective. There are a few champions out there that a good deal > of the fancy enjoys...and I wouldn't take em home and feed them. > > Jackie > > > (Leading some of us to question, just who the he** is "Jackie" that SHE gets > to determine who eats?) > > Now, if Christine or Kathaleen, who have owned and bred GVs, want to > venture an opinion on something deserving of being fed, well, sure, They've EARNED > it. If Paul or Dave want to look in their back yards and then expand on the > merits of CHs, sure. But you know, they won't. What you don't hear from > them is the whining about the ones that didn't make it, yet not everything bred > or owned turns to gold. It's because they know, FIRSTHAND, as do so many of > us, the blood, sweat and tears that go into this game that we have too much > respect to insinuate something is "mediocre". That's what keeps Paul clapping > in the middle of the ring for every Champion presented to him. What you > accomplish in life, in dogs, whatever gives you STANDING to venture an opinion. > Never mind...that thought is obviously wasted on a 20-something. Have a > good evening, I'm done. > > > Kathy > three generations of Dual Titled Champions live here! > > visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ > (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================