This made me remember another way to catch rats . Put water about half full in one of those 5 gallon straight sided buckets and put some corn meal in the water or some kind of food that will float on top , then lean a board against the bucket . The rats will climb up the board and jump in to get the food then drown in the water <g> . Have done this many times as it doesn't include any kind of poison . Connie Palmer Williams - Executive Director German Shepherd Rescue of Central Colorado Inc. ..."I have promises to keep and miles to go before I sleep"...Robert Frost www.GSDRColorado.com ______________________________________________________ No worries. I had to reach way down to the bottom to get the last of the kibble while making a mental note (at 6 a.m?) to get more kibble and just as I was leaning down, scooping up the kibble, TWO HUGE TREE RATS ran up each NAKED arm. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================