[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Hobby breeder guilty
- From: Kate Syssoloff <rockannand@xxxxxxx>
- To: stormygsd@xxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:48:41 -0700 (MST)
I don't think it is so black and white. It would still be a hobby kennel if
the breeder's intention was to try to produce the best dog. Selling off the
littermates and putting those profits back into the dogs, to me, doesn't
constitute a commercial breeder. A commercial breeder, at least in BC, must
earn over $25,000/annually, have a tax number and a kennel license. I'm a
retired breeder also, and can say I sold a lot of puppies over the 30 years of
breeding and showing that I did. I never made any money doing it, loved the
families who purchased them, made a lot of friends who are still friends all
these years later, and just about tapped out our pay cheques each month trying
to do it right. I do not think 'commercial' is a bad word anyway. Money must
be made somehow to afford the hobby and this way of life. Whether I'm out
there giving obedience lessons to offset expenses, standing my dog at stud or
whatever. It was always for the dogs.
Kate Syssoloff
Rockannand
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue M" <stormygsd@xxxxxxx>
To: inquestgsd@xxxxxxx, kgsawler@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "GSD-List" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 9:17:41 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Hobby breeder guilty
I read the news article sent yesterday.
I am not judging, i say this from experience.
She has, reportedly, 17 German shepherds. If she ls a "hobby" breeder, what is
she doing with 17 dogs?
From where i sit a hobby breeder is one that has a few breeding/show quality
pets that they show and breed along with the Dog's usual family pet
activities...they are breeding for the joy of it (ummmmm puppy breath). They
sell those puppies with the idea to offset some of the costs of having that
litter. (registrations, vaccinations, vet costs etc)
To me, anything else constitutes commercial. If litters are bred and sold to
offset expenses related to maintaining the rest of the dogs - commercial, to
offset travel and show expenses- commercial, to pay vet bills- commercial.
in these examples the breeding/selling is a part time job... NOT a hobby.
Back to my corner..
Susan Madlung
Shadowacre German Shepherds - retired
Sent by Sue from cyberspace
-----Original Message-----
From: Ileana
Sent: 13 Jan 2013 15:19:51 GMT
To: kgsawler@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: GSD-List
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Hobby breeder guilty
That is exactly my point. This sets a dangerous precedent for us dog owners
that live within city limits.
I don't know Danielle, nor know how many dogs, cats, or whatever she has.
All I know is that one disgruntled GSD person has turned on another for who
knows what reason and a judge had decided that he is a god, and the entire
situation stinks to bad justice.
You need to separate yourself from Danielle and her dogs and look at this as a
case decision that can negatively impact you and your dogs.
Even today I have received 6 emails of people telling me she is a puppy mill,
has almost 20 dogs in a very small home, rotates the dogs with her mother, her
dogs are in poor health. Meanwhile I have it from people that have been to her
house and attended the court hearings that none of this is true.
Why are we doing this to ourselves??
Who needs enemies?
Ileana
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 13, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Kathy Sawler <kgsawler@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I usually lurk on the list but this one scares the begeezes out of me. My
> point on my last post ref. to rescues is that they could be next! For me, it
> is about he implications that this judgement can have on not only hobby
> breeders but other situations as well. Now, back to lurking.
>
> Kathy Sawler
>
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