[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Help with behavior
- From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "myjoygs@xxxxxxx" <myjoygs@xxxxxxx>, "marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx" <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:42:32 -0700 (PDT)
I totally agree with you, Joyce. Just because she chose not to bite the child
the first time does not mean that she will use that restraint again. I had an
experience like this recently. A young male who didn't turn out as a show dog
was rehomed with a wonderful family who had another dog from me. On the first
day, the dog growled at their younger son. He was fine with the rest of the
family. The little boy was not doing anything wrong. He just wanted to pet
the dog. I felt like the dog should be removed right away, but the family
wanted to try and work it out. That evening, the dog bit the little boy rather
badly when the boy tried to approach him again. I immediately went to get the
dog. He was put down. I regretted this very much, but this kind of aggression
is just not okay with me. The dog was not raised around children, but I see no
point in making excuses for a dog. If a dog cannot, for whatever reason, be a
good
representative of the breed to the public then he has to go (if I am the one
making the call). Sometimes dogs are put in situations that are not fair to
them, and I hate it when that happens.
Dr. Zoa Rockenstein
www.riverrockgermanshepherds.com
Home of Multiple Group Winner GCH RiverRock's Hotel California (Callie) HSAs
RN BN
Group Winner Ch. RiverRock's Straight From The Heart PT, HSAsd (Sera)
and RiverRock's One Fine Day (Sunny)
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> From: "myjoygs@xxxxxxx" <myjoygs@xxxxxxx>
>To: marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:37 PM
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Help with behavior
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>Is this the first time this dog has been around children? I agree that it
>sounds more like fear and as harsh as it sounds any dog that snaps at a child
>is gone in my book. That dog is a tragedy waiting to happen whether it bites
>this time or not it will bite eventually if pushed and a child could be the
>receipient and a lot of damage could be done. Just a moment when the dog is
>not fully being supervised that is all it takes. Or gets loose and is scared
>its a loose canon on the run.
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>I guess I feel so strongly because my grandchild was bit in the face when she
>was a 18 months (by a sitter's dog, who should have known better). It wasn't
>pretty.
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>MYJOY SHEPHERDS
>Joyce Willis
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jackie Short-Nguyen <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 1:48 pm
>Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Help with behavior
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>This sounds like fear behavior to me, not dominance.
>he fact that the dog is retreating under the table (somewhere covered, and
>ot easily accessible) screams avoidance behavior to me, as does the
>haking mentioned.
>Yes, she could be "guarding" her favorite person, and she may view that
>erson as a valuable resource, but she's trying to retreat somewhere
>ecluded. If she really wanted to bite, she'd have done so already. What
>he is doing is a lot of bluffing, and trying to get people out of her
>omfort zone.
>I do not know how the table is set up (against a wall or not), but if she's
>rammed herself under a table where chairs are present, and the space is
>locked off, she may have felt snapping at the toddler was her only
>ption. If I read correctly, the bitch did not connect with the child, so
>he did show bite inhibition.
>I personally agree with Kathy in this instance, and would recommend she be
>ehomed to an adult only home, or a home with older children (13-14+), and
>he dog should have an experienced owner either way. I'd also suggest a
>ehaviorist, rather than a plain old trainer. Get to the root of the issue.
>Wish I could have seen the whole behavior myself, but, as I said, sounds
>ore like fear aggression than dominance.
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>ackie & Jonathan Nguyen Marcato German
>hepherds<http://www.marcatogermanshepherds.com>
>Konzert vom Drachenberg, CD, RN, CGC, SD "Strauss"
>evine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada"
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