Is this the first time this dog has been around children? I agree that it sounds more like fear and as harsh as it sounds any dog that snaps at a child is gone in my book. That dog is a tragedy waiting to happen whether it bites this time or not it will bite eventually if pushed and a child could be the receipient and a lot of damage could be done. Just a moment when the dog is not fully being supervised that is all it takes. Or gets loose and is scared its a loose canon on the run. I guess I feel so strongly because my grandchild was bit in the face when she was a 18 months (by a sitter's dog, who should have known better). It wasn't pretty. MYJOY SHEPHERDS Joyce Willis -----Original Message----- From: Jackie Short-Nguyen <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 1:48 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Help with behavior This sounds like fear behavior to me, not dominance. he fact that the dog is retreating under the table (somewhere covered, and ot easily accessible) screams avoidance behavior to me, as does the haking mentioned. Yes, she could be "guarding" her favorite person, and she may view that erson as a valuable resource, but she's trying to retreat somewhere ecluded. If she really wanted to bite, she'd have done so already. What he is doing is a lot of bluffing, and trying to get people out of her omfort zone. I do not know how the table is set up (against a wall or not), but if she's rammed herself under a table where chairs are present, and the space is locked off, she may have felt snapping at the toddler was her only ption. If I read correctly, the bitch did not connect with the child, so he did show bite inhibition. I personally agree with Kathy in this instance, and would recommend she be ehomed to an adult only home, or a home with older children (13-14+), and he dog should have an experienced owner either way. I'd also suggest a ehaviorist, rather than a plain old trainer. Get to the root of the issue. Wish I could have seen the whole behavior myself, but, as I said, sounds ore like fear aggression than dominance. - ackie & Jonathan Nguyen Marcato German hepherds<http://www.marcatogermanshepherds.com> Konzert vom Drachenberg, CD, RN, CGC, SD "Strauss" evine's Gunpowder N Lead RN "Mirada" =========================================================================== OST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original uthor and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind re permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the howgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its dministrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any ost. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER F ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL ARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A IOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html ATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2011. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================