From: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx> I do not see it the same. The dogs in Germany are seldom house dogs . They are kept in a kennel and as both standards call for, they are to be aloof. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Aloof: reserved or reticent; indifferent; disinterested: Because of his shyness, he had the reputationof being aloof. Not the type of dog the Euro countries breed for but see it in GSD America. Whether a person wants to admit it or not there are way too many German Shepherds in America that do fit the above character in temperament. As America continue to accept this behavior including this at GSD Specialty Shows it will get much worse. When a older dog pulls away from a judge acts insecure this dog should be excused not rewarded with a top ribbon. They have no place in a breeding program to produce more like them and should not be placed in a pet home. They should remain with their breeder for them to continue to see it is undesirable behavior. It continues to amaze me how breeders breed this type of dog and feel dogs of this nature belong close to a child in a pet home. Yes, there are handlers out there that can work to hide this temperament but these dogs will still become unglued with certain judges. The knowledgeable judge knows how to get them to react and these judges should be commended not ridiculed if these dog do not place. I am tired of listening to excuses as I know most people are of why a dog acts this way. It is all Genetics if you have a sound dog in the first place it does not matter the circumstances the dog will stand their ground and not shy away. It is time we get back to breeding a dog of sound temperament that is what the German Shepherd Dog was and always should be. Theresa ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================