[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: German/American crosses >Aloof
- From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
I understand what you are saying the point I was trying to make was that way
too many people do not understand the meaning of Aloof. I look at the meaning
as standoffish but threw the other out there to let others know everyone looks
at it differently.
standoffish
having or showing a lack of friendliness or interest in others <she proved to
be simply shy, not standoffish>
A German Shepherd can be standoffish but never shy as shyness it not good
character in temperament.
I do not want to own a Golden Retriever type personality in my German Shepherd
to run up and love
everyone. I like the reserve thinking in my dogs to not believe everyone is
their friend but be aware there
are people out there not to be trusted. The German Shepherd I have always
owned let my children and now grandchildren
lean on them, kiss them on the nose, hug them, even had a few tugs on his ears
and tails by my youngest ones
and they accept all. Yet protective with all the family and have saved me
many of times in the
Rest Areas along the Interstates from a person that came up behind me as I had
no knowledge of them. I know it is not
a good idea to stop at 2-3 am at them but sometimes I have had no choice. The
German Shepherd Dog I own now
has turned, stood his ground and barked at these intruders. As they had no dog
in hand do not believe they were to
be trusted. A well-bred German Shepherd Dog does not need to be trained to
protect or deal with a situation they
instinctly know the good guys from the bad.
I have always owned German/American crosses as I feel you can get the best from
both. The Czech lines are
a bit too much drive for me as they act more like the Aussie or Border more
hyper always need something
to do.
Theresa
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On Tue, 9/3/13, Jackie Short-Nguyen <marcatoshepherds@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2013, 11:09 AM
From the way you're
describing it though, Theresa, what people are doing is
breeding SHYNESS and calling it aloof. That is not true
aloofness.
I have a couple dogs here who are truly aloof,
and do not give a crap about strangers. They can be
touched with no issues, and they will hold their ground when
approached, but they show no interest in the stranger doing
the approaching.
I think the issue is not enough people truly
understand what aloof is, or they use the word to excuse shy
behavior.
That said, I do think more animals should be
excused from the ring. Animals that can barely be examined
shouldn't remain. It's in our standard.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at
10:19 AM, Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
From:
"ELG440@xxxxxxx"
<ELG440@xxxxxxx>
I do not see it the same. The dogs in Germany are seldom
house dogs .
They are kept in a kennel and as both standards call for,
they are to be
aloof.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Aloof:
reserved or reticent; indifferent; disinterested: Because
of his shyness, he had the reputationof
being aloof.
Not the type of dog the Euro countries breed for but see it
in GSD America.
Whether a person wants to admit it or not there are way
too many German
Shepherds in America that do fit the above character in
temperament.
As America continue to accept this behavior including this
at GSD
Specialty Shows it will get much worse.
When a older dog pulls away from a judge acts insecure this
dog should be
excused not rewarded with a top ribbon.
They have no place in a breeding program to produce more
like them and should not be placed in a pet home.
They should remain
with their breeder for them to continue to see it is
undesirable
behavior.
It continues to amaze me how breeders breed this type of
dog
and feel
dogs of this nature belong close to a child in a pet
home. Yes, there are handlers
out there that can work to hide this temperament but these
dogs will still become
unglued with certain judges. The knowledgeable judge knows
how to get them
to react and these judges should be commended not ridiculed
if these dog do not
place. I am tired of
listening to excuses as I know most people are of why
a dog acts this way. It is all Genetics if you have a
sound dog in the first place
it does not matter the circumstances the dog will stand
their ground and not shy away.
It is time we get back to breeding a dog of sound
temperament that is what the German Shepherd Dog
was and always should be.
Theresa
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