You say "lets not point fingers" - so don't point fingers. It is obvious that there were numerous glitches in the process. Sh*t Happens. The point is to learn from it, not to have yet another round of accusations. My company has a vendor who does nothing but check the "references" and employment histories that applicants put on their resumes. We are often amazed at the reports they come back with, the misstatements and complete fabrications they find. Margy -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of frank fasano Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:48 AM To: f.fasano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ShowGSD04 Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: General--Important but long, sorry for length but worth reading As I recall Election Trust named other clients for whom they handled elections and the list was quite impressive- I also believe that Sharon had difficulty reaching them originally due to a faulty phone number- her error- were they at fault for that also? Let's not point fingers but solve problems that will reoccur if not addressed-Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "frank fasano" <f.fasano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "ShowGSD04" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: General--Important but long, sorry for length but worth reading > Ken Facts at the meeting as I recall- Lamar reviewed the bid from Election Trust and found it to be adequate-one bid was rejected as inadequate- the vote to retain Election Trust was unanimous- that means you voted to retain them. > The FACTS I AM TRYING TO DETERMINE are those that occurred after the meeting and before the ballots were mailed- 1. was a proposed copy sent to someone on behalf of the club - 2. were corrections requested- i.e. were a marked copies sent back to Election Trust-and were those marked changes made 3. how did the return on the envelope get changed- I would have imagined that prior examples would have been provided to Election Trust- 4. Additionally I find it difficult to believe that Election Trust does not have a physical address, at least for payment. > I am not trying to place blame but need to know for the integrity of future elections-Kris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ken and Pat Downing > To: f.fasano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Germanshepherds4Show@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ; Showgsdlist > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: General--Important but long, sorry > for length but worth reading > > > Kris: You have the FACTS since you were present at the Board > meeting. Ken > > > > Abraxas...The Secret of Success is Consistency of Purpose > Visit our website at www.abraxasgsd.com > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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