Exactly Kris. It is always the lack of proper communication that causes all these nasty problems. By accident or ????. Sandi ----- Original Message ----- From: "frank fasano" <f.fasano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'ShowGSD04'" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: General--Important but long, sorry for length but worth reading > We were not provided copies of the bids- when I asked why not Sharon > appeared to me to get defensive and said I should have known to ask for > them- Since I did not know when they were solicited, or how many were > received, I told her how would I know and specifically asked to be provided > copies in the future- the bid was reviewed at length by Lamar Fredericks, as > our counsel, and by Bill Pfeiffer. I do believe that the bid was good but as > a Board member would have preferred having all the bids before the meeting- > I do think this fiasco has occurred due to poor communication after the > vote- ours / theirs / or both. We need to put a plug in the hole to > prevent a reoccurrence-Kris > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathaleen Strong" <inflight2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <f.fasano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "'ShowGSD04'" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 10:00 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: General--Important but long, sorry for length but > worth reading > > > > The FACTS I AM TRYING TO DETERMINE are those that occurred after the > meeting > > and before the ballots were mailed- 1. was a proposed copy sent to > > someone on behalf of the club - 2. were corrections requested- > i.e. > > were a marked copies sent back to Election Trust-and were those marked > > changes made 3. how did the return on the envelope get changed- I > > would have imagined that prior examples would have been provided to > Election > > Trust- 4. Additionally I find it difficult to believe that Election > > Trust does not have a physical address, at least for payment. > > I am not trying to place blame but need to know for the integrity of > future > > elections-Kris > > > > My question 1 is: > > > > Were the board members provided with actual copies of the proposals and > bids > > or just numbers? > > > > Question 2: > > > > If they were not, why did you proceed with voting on it? > > > > Statement: I called the State of Washington, Department of Licensing > > Business search line, to verify who actually owned and represented this > > company. I was given all the names of the owners, their UBI number, and > > their recorded address. Now it is entirely possible this company has a > PMB > > as their mailing address - a lot of companies do, this doesn't mean they > are > > a poor quality company. > > > > I personally found the quality of the material I received from this > company > > to be VERY PROFESSIONALLY laid out, with the same typeface and font size > > used throughout the bios, the layout of the ballot was clear and concise, > > with crisp lettering... far more professional than the "crap" we have > > received from "Honest" ballot in the past. > > > > I can not imagine this company cut people's bios on purpose... I can only > > assume that they were missing in the information they were provided. The > > thing I did find lacking were the sizes of envelopes used in this job. > This > > may have been a mistake on their part, or another miscommunication. > > > > Regards, > > > > Kathaleen > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > POST is Copyrighted 2005. 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