If a dog is shown on the loose lead(not just a few steps when it has its momentum to carry him) all the way around the ring at all three speeds, the best moving dogs will be obvious to most. It ain't that complicated. We have some dogs who become big winners never shown this way, i think it is a travesty for the dogs to be shown in any other way other than the loose lead. I remember a futurity a few years ago that i was showing at. The judge was adamant about dogs being shown on the loose lead. A big name handler with a big winning dog had come to town and he was leading the class, the dog looked great albeit on a tight lead. The owner of my dog became nervous as we were in second. I told the owner, under this judge the handler will be forced to get the dog on the loose lead. As soon as the judge told the handler get the dog on a dead loose lead, the dog with the beautiful outline and the far reaching gait all of a sudden had its butt go up, it seemed to lose its rear drive,and it was running downhill. Needless to say the dog was appropriately placed in 3 or 4th place. If that judge had not insisted on the loose lead the dog would have no doubt won best in futurity. A better example of the impact of loose lead could not have been shown. Unlike this judge I've seen too many judges that give the loose lead "lip service" only and apply it selectively. To me they are either not committed to finding the best moving dog or they don' t understand Shepherd movement(or i guess they have a keener eye, one that does not required the loose lead to determine the best mover). I for one honor those judges that believe that loose lead gaiting is central to their procedure and are willing to insist upon it to consider any dog. I've had the luxury of learing under some real good "old timers" that have taught me the importance of the loose lead. It will be central to my judging procedure, if and when that day ever comes. Bill ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================